(March 3, 2019 at 10:38 am)PRJA93 Wrote:(March 2, 2019 at 4:00 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Still not sure what the problem is with saying atheism is a belief. I say there's Skydaddy. You say, "Yeah. . . I doubt it, bud. Show me." You believe Skydaddy isn't real, but you're always willing to accept evidence to the contrary.
Why are atheists fighting so hard to be seen as people who simply lack a belief, and not as those who believe certain propositions are likely false?
Atheism = without belief in god
Asexuality = without sexual attraction to others
Amorality = without morality
What's the issue? There is no issue. The disingenuous attempt to push atheism as "a belief" is simply a sad attempt by theists to paint atheism as requiring just as much faith as theism.
A + theism = without theism. Without a belief in a god or gods. It's truly simple.
I cannot force myself to believe in god as I cannot force myself to believe that 2 + 2 = 5. You can scream and shout that I have a "belief" that 2 + 2 = 4, but unfortunately for you your efforts would be in vain. I don't "believe" that 2 + 2 = 4, I simply accept it as the fact of what my senses and logic are telling me.
Right. There is a need, or desire, or a failure of thought that drives theists to assume that if an atheist doesn't believe in god then he/she must believe in something else. Finding that there is no atheist belief/dogma/creed they desparately make crap up out of whole cloth and proceed to instruct us as to what we believe and why.
This is simply another example of the towering arrogance of the faithful. And hypocrisy.
Sure they will rock up playing the humble and contrite card. but in a second, they will turn a declaim that they know exactly what is in your head even better than you do. And it is your head, not his/hers. Somehow that doesn't matter.