RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 5, 2019 at 10:18 pm
(This post was last modified: March 5, 2019 at 10:30 pm by bennyboy.)
(March 5, 2019 at 9:58 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: The existential truth about any god not only is not hidden, but as it's undefined, does not even merit any position with respect to it.
It's (the idea) nothing but acculturation and a bad habit.
The idea has no more value than that of Pink Sparkly Unicorns.
Yeah, maybe. It depends on what value depends for you. I'd like very much to know why there is mind rather than a lack of it, for example-- or why anything exists at all.
Is there value in thinking about this stuff, or speculating? Not in the sense that you'll ever get a definitive answer, and not in the sense that you'll have some advantage in putting food on the table.
Pink Sparkly Unicorns have little interest for me. But the philosophical quantity or entity which allows for existence-- that's fundamentally interesting, without regard to its value beyond having something deep to think about.
(March 5, 2019 at 10:18 pm)EgoDeath Wrote: I don't know what to tell you. It's been explained to you multiple times that atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive. That you're unable to identify whether or not you hold a belief in god or gods is a testament that you DON'T hold said belief. Meaning you are an agnostic atheist. Not sure how many times you want me to repeat this, but this is the last time I'll say it. If there's some last word you'd like to get in, feel free. I'm done explaining this to you as I've done it multiple times now, as have others.
"It's been explained to you."
A bit condescending isn't it? I understand what you and the others have said, and I disagree with that model of the relationship between belief and knowledge. I don't think talking about beliefs I lack is a useful position-- and I don't agree that my own state of belief is properly represented by your semantic.
At this point, I have to ask you what your motivation here is. I identify as agnostic, and I can explain (and have) why I prefer not to use the term agnostic atheist. What's your prize here, bud? Why does pigeonholing me into your semantic matter so much to you?