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Beto using the right tactic.
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RE: Beto using the right tactic.
(March 14, 2019 at 10:34 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'm not telling you that the dumpster fire in chief -isn't- running game on his constituency, ofc he is.  I honestly doubt that there's a GOP anymore, personally, the party of trump shivved it.  Still..yeah, they'll continue to do what's been working for them. On the other side of that coin, however, is that if the american left is interested in appealing to "all americans" rather than simply mouthing those words in an attempt to manufacture the appearance...then they, and you, are going to have to come to grips with exactly who you're appealing to, and how you're doing to have to do it.

I think that it's a bad idea, to use the example I offered before, to appeal to white supremacy in order to avoid fascism, but if the left wants to do that then it should do it out in the open.  You should understand that this is what you're going to have to do whether you like it or not.  So, for an example.  Beto used to talk about tearing down these walls...but that's tapered off, and he lost, so I'd expect to hear even less of it than before as he runs for a higher office and has to appeal to WALL fetishists.  

Alot of people will see that as somehow being inauthentic, pandering to polling...but what do we expect a genuine "appeal to all americans" to look like if -not- for that?

You might try taking those blinders off, for one. There's no such thing as appealing to all Americans, and trying to specifically appeal to a set of winning demographics is inherently pandering.

Being honest about the issues is a good place to start, and your constant blather about white supremacists isn't honest. I have never seen a guy more determined to piss off working class white people than you. You want to brand them all as white supremacists, and when that pisses people off you claim that this proves that they are white supremacists. A huge part of the left is working class whites, and you are trying to alienate them all. It's enough to make me think that you are a poe who is really a Republican trying trying to alienate working class white people from the left. This isn't a very politically active forum, so maybe you just practice your bullshit here.

I don't want to vote for a person who just says things for demographic appeal. I want the party to shift to the left, and a New Dem isn't going to shift the party to the left no matter what they are willing to say to win an election. The New Dems are inherently Reagan Democrats with a few socially liberal positions mixed in for broader appeal. They are going to be Reagan Democrats no matter what.  I am not going to vote for one of them, no matter what.
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Beto using the right tactic. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2019 at 9:51 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Yonadav - March 14, 2019 at 10:20 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2019 at 10:41 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 10:34 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Yonadav - March 14, 2019 at 11:08 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2019 at 11:20 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 10:43 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2019 at 10:51 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Yonadav - March 14, 2019 at 11:19 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2019 at 2:52 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Belacqua - March 14, 2019 at 7:41 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 11:02 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 11:16 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Yonadav - March 14, 2019 at 11:27 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 11:32 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 14, 2019 at 1:57 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Athene - March 14, 2019 at 2:59 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Grandizer - March 14, 2019 at 7:35 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 8:23 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Belacqua - March 14, 2019 at 8:50 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 14, 2019 at 8:56 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Athene - March 14, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 12:46 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Athene - March 15, 2019 at 5:37 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Belacqua - March 15, 2019 at 6:09 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Mister Agenda - March 15, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 15, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 10:58 am
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 1:14 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 1:22 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Yonadav - March 15, 2019 at 1:47 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Athene - March 15, 2019 at 8:00 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by The Grand Nudger - March 15, 2019 at 1:53 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by TaraJo - March 18, 2019 at 7:43 pm
RE: Beto using the right tactic. - by Belacqua - March 18, 2019 at 8:43 pm

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