Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: September 5, 2026, 2:42 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain
#7
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain
(October 6, 2011 at 7:08 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: So you are saying that selective pressures weeded out the humans who did not possess enough cognitive capacity thus preserving those that did?

I didn't say that - although yes - that is an extrapolation of what I said.
And yes, I do believe that the brain was subject to selective pressures because selection is a key mechanism for evolution.

See this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1876205/

(October 6, 2011 at 7:08 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: So exactly when did we develop the ability to think logically and to conduct advanced mathematics?

I don't know the exact time period when we developed the ability to think logically and to conduct advanced mathematics.

However, the two important things you should know are that logical deduction emerged much earlier than the ability to perform advanced mathematics, and secondly, that the development was a gradual process and that's why I don't think that any scientist will ever be able to accurately determine at exactly what point in human evolution we developed these cognitive abilities.

(October 6, 2011 at 7:08 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Would this have been around the time of the great philosophers in Greece around 4,500 years ago?

Yes, because if they were great philosophers, then it logically implies that they also had all those abilities to a certain extent (irrespective of the time that they lived in). Also, as Justtristo noted, the correct number for how many years ago the great philosophers lived in Greece is around 2,500, not 4,500. However, if you still think that I'm wrong, then I would like you to mention the name of a particular philosopher or philosophers that you originally had in your mind.

(October 6, 2011 at 7:08 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Calculus first appeared in the 17th century, is this when humans developed the cognitive ability to do it?

Not necessarily, because even if calculus first appeared in the 17th century, this doesn't mean that this is the exact time when humans developed the ability to do calculus.

There may have been other people who lived before the 17th century that knew a few basic things about calculus, things that are related to calculus, or perhaps things that are less advanced than calculus (if not calculus). Afterall, there are many branches of mathematics and each has its own level of difficulty. But again, as I said before, the important thing is that these logical, mathematical, and musical abilities that you are talking about didn't pop up in our heads in a single day nor in a single century. Rather, their development was simply an evolutionary process.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Rayaan - October 6, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Darth - October 7, 2011 at 1:52 am
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Rayaan - October 7, 2011 at 2:07 am
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Darth - October 15, 2011 at 7:25 am
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 14, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 15, 2011 at 10:59 am
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 14, 2011 at 8:57 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 14, 2011 at 8:49 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 14, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 24, 2011 at 6:48 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 24, 2011 at 7:03 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Darth - October 25, 2011 at 4:51 am
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 25, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 25, 2011 at 8:36 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 25, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 25, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 25, 2011 at 8:48 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 25, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 25, 2011 at 9:36 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 25, 2011 at 9:46 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 26, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 26, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 26, 2011 at 9:21 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 27, 2011 at 1:14 am
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 25, 2011 at 9:51 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 6:57 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 7:15 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 7:31 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 7:43 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 8:05 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 8:46 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by Shell B - October 26, 2011 at 8:17 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 26, 2011 at 10:01 pm
RE: Calculus, Logic, Music and the Human Brain - by IATIA - October 26, 2011 at 10:09 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Consciousness as a brain function Alan V 19 7936 May 26, 2025 at 1:50 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Human Nature Alan V 287 63478 May 3, 2025 at 6:18 pm
Last Post: Belacqua
  How would you improve the human body? Fake Messiah 31 10233 May 30, 2024 at 6:59 am
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Human Case of H5N1 Bird Flu in Texas Nanny 1 1934 April 1, 2024 at 7:05 pm
Last Post: Paleophyte
  Debunking Creationism #1 - How Human Evolution Works QuackeryDetection 58 16432 May 17, 2022 at 3:17 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Disbelief in human evolution linked to racism & prejudice Fake Messiah 61 15745 April 7, 2022 at 12:28 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Man completely paralyzed by ALS asks for a beer via brain implant TaraJo 14 4363 March 26, 2022 at 12:11 pm
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  A Human says what? Jackie 37 11960 June 29, 2020 at 12:24 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  [Serious] Link between brain damage and religious fundamentalism established Fake Messiah 9 3278 November 18, 2019 at 12:14 am
Last Post: John 6IX Breezy
  Screen time and the preschool brain brewer 8 2750 November 6, 2019 at 12:15 am
Last Post: Little lunch



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)