(April 8, 2019 at 11:36 am)Brian37 Wrote: I do not hate objects, that is simply bullshit.then why only identify the evil in the method in which the kids where killed?why not the evil/broken woman or even the kids who drove a mother to suicide and a grandmother to a double murder suicide? why is the disgust centered on the object?
Quote:I do hate attitudes about objects. A Koran is an object as well. It cannot jump up on it's own and murder you or me. But there are people who do pick it up and read it and use it to justify harm to others.and on the other hand it can be used to inspire a quite life and coexistence. it just depends on the heart of the person using this tool which again points to the evil in people not the objects. just like the bible was used to justify inquisitions and crusades it can also be used to
Quote:I hate your attitude in ignoring a very real problem of access to those objects.I have not ignored anything unlike yourself, that is why I identify the problem as a evil person problem rather than attributing evil to an object. meaning if a evil person does not have a gun it will find poison it will put kids in a trunk of a car (that happened) and drive it into the ocean it will drown kids it will poison them cut their throats while they sleep.. Evil does not need a specific tool. evil will prevail no matter what is available so long as the person is motivated enough.
On the other hand a gun is completely inert with out a person and their intentions evil or good. to direct it! the gun is not the issue evil is. keeping evil people from guns should be your focus. but that would require a standard of 'morality' a bit higher than what the current pop culture will allow. which challanges your core values to be over hauled..
So put a bandaid on it and call guns evil rather than identify evil in people.
the only thing laws against guns do is keep law abiding people from Guns. and even if all guns where gone evil would still see just as many dead with or with the gun... or do you not know history well enough to know life/murder was far more prevalent in human society before guns where invented? that wars and skirmishes till took place than sick or evil people still killed kids?!?!
Quote:You tell me where those murdered kids rights were?they are the same as anyone else subject to evil.
Quote:If we armed them they'd been able to defend themselves. That is how fucked up your logic is. Humans have rights, objects do not, objects are not living humans.hey dumbass. settle your self for a moment wrangle your emotion and give this a thought or two first..
IDK with you guys either you never had kids or never had a bad one. but these two drove their mother to suicide.. you can say she may have been mentally defective as per her mother's actions/the grandmother... but then so too would the kids also be effected./not normal. Then even if the grandmother was broken mentally they pushed her to kill them and try and kill her self. Now say what you will about the old woman, but in the end she did to manage a pretty full life without killing herself or anyone else before these kids. also note they where the only variable that pushed granny into a murderous rage.