(April 22, 2019 at 11:56 am)Simon Moon Wrote:(April 22, 2019 at 10:30 am)tackattack Wrote: Because words that are the most offensive or insulting really spur rational discussion? Because they can de-escalate the emotionalism from an argument so that people actually listen to each other? No because they sate some juvenile need because your EQ is somewhere stuck near your IQ and equitable to that of a butt-hurt 4 year old (pun intended). I wonder why Christians generally assume most atheists are reactionary and puerile or conflate atheists with anti-theists regularly?
But it doesn't always work that way.
I have joined several Christian forums, and have been banned for doing nothing more than asking legitimate questions. I never cussed, never insulted anyone on these forums.
Yet, within just a few posts, I was banned.
I then continued to visit these forums for a while to see the comments against me after I was gone. Not only was I insulted and misrepresented, but these 'loving Christians' seemed happy that I was destined to eternal torture in Hell, for finite thought crimes.
And this behavior was not isolated. It replayed itself one almost every theist forum I joined.
So your stance is, it's not always that way, but it was always demonstrated when I visited Christian forums? Listen, I'm not saying it can't be demonstrated on both sides, because I know it can. It's bad when both sides do it. My point, in pointing it out, was to ask why and why it's always heralded as "yeah fuck those atheists" or "yeah fuck those christards" within each camp. The evolutionary psychology of it is pretty clear but with the complex emotional centers of Humans, more emotion usually = amplify response exponentially. Wouldn't choosing your words to specifically incite more emotionalism be defeatist at it's base? Both sides have a fair it of housecleaning to do, but individually, people are usually too defensive of their side's biases instinctively, myself included.
For instance, in this thread, I wasn't offended in the slighted because I knew that something was wrong with his empathy center. As it seemed some were jumping on the bandwagon, I just through up an objection to it's utility, not it's use. It's not to say that people on the spectrum can't have empathy, but typicall those without compensate with intellect. I was just appealing to that intellect by pointing out how logically useless it is as a goal.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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