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The Historical Christ
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RE: The Historical Christ
(May 30, 2009 at 10:15 am)dagda Wrote: First off I would like to say that I think you are getting the wrong end of the stick when it comes to the wittings of Josephus. Yes many scholars agree that 'At about this lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one might call him a man...' was a latter tampering with the text by Christian copyists-the operative word being 'tampering'. There is no evidence that I can find which suggests that this passage was complete invention. In fact it is far more likely to be Christians changing an existing passage which does not agree with their world view.

I disagree for two simple reasons ...

1. Historians like Josephus wrote with precision and style, the interpolation sounds like something out of a "Wish You Were Here" holiday guide.

2. The passages read better WITHOUT the interpolation (as if they were originally intended without it).

Kyu
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The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 8, 2009 at 4:35 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 7:31 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 8, 2009 at 10:06 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 11:51 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 8, 2009 at 12:54 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 8, 2009 at 2:26 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 8, 2009 at 4:20 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LukeMC - April 16, 2009 at 11:34 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by fr0d0 - April 8, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 8, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by fr0d0 - April 9, 2009 at 2:44 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 10, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 10, 2009 at 9:32 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by leo-rcc - April 10, 2009 at 9:52 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by lilphil1989 - April 10, 2009 at 9:58 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by leo-rcc - April 10, 2009 at 10:00 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 10, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 10, 2009 at 6:42 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - April 10, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 11, 2009 at 9:13 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 12, 2009 at 3:18 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 17, 2009 at 5:33 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 18, 2009 at 9:48 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 20, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by g-mark - April 22, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - April 22, 2009 at 6:24 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2009 at 10:02 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - April 22, 2009 at 5:26 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - April 22, 2009 at 6:46 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 27, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 27, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - April 28, 2009 at 10:22 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - April 28, 2009 at 11:14 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Tiberius - April 28, 2009 at 11:36 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - May 10, 2009 at 11:38 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 24, 2009 at 9:36 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 10:57 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 25, 2009 at 4:38 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 1:55 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 3:42 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by lrh9 - May 25, 2009 at 5:24 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 25, 2009 at 6:39 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 6:57 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by lrh9 - May 25, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 26, 2009 at 5:56 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Giff - May 26, 2009 at 8:00 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 27, 2009 at 3:23 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 26, 2009 at 12:05 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 26, 2009 at 6:46 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 27, 2009 at 8:44 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 27, 2009 at 12:50 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 27, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 27, 2009 at 1:23 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 27, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - May 27, 2009 at 9:29 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 28, 2009 at 11:31 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 28, 2009 at 7:03 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 28, 2009 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 28, 2009 at 3:20 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 28, 2009 at 3:37 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 28, 2009 at 4:03 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 29, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 29, 2009 at 10:27 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 29, 2009 at 1:26 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - May 29, 2009 at 2:15 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - May 30, 2009 at 10:15 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - May 30, 2009 at 5:33 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - May 30, 2009 at 9:13 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Eilonnwy - May 30, 2009 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 1, 2009 at 10:35 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - June 2, 2009 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - June 2, 2009 at 3:01 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by LEDO - June 6, 2009 at 7:28 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by padraic - June 2, 2009 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by moleque - June 3, 2009 at 4:08 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 3, 2009 at 9:59 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 3, 2009 at 2:07 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - June 8, 2009 at 11:26 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - July 13, 2009 at 8:19 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - July 14, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 3, 2009 at 1:49 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 3, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 3, 2009 at 3:02 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 3, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 4, 2009 at 12:45 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 12:51 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - August 4, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 8:52 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - August 5, 2009 at 5:42 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - August 4, 2009 at 1:24 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 4, 2009 at 1:33 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 1:38 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by dagda - August 5, 2009 at 8:23 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - August 4, 2009 at 2:04 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 4, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 4, 2009 at 4:23 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Anto Kennedy - August 5, 2009 at 7:17 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Kyuuketsuki - August 5, 2009 at 7:49 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 5, 2009 at 10:34 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 5, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: The Historical Christ - by chatpilot - August 5, 2009 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Historical Christ - by Minimalist - August 5, 2009 at 4:59 pm

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