Game of Thrones final season [spoilers]

[Clueless Morgan]

Ok, the good parts...
It was too dark for me to realize at the time (and I was a bit distracted with my phone), but I've since seen the 40 minute behind the scenes that they put on youtube and... the crypt and how the dead in the tombs came alive! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That's hilarious! Put the women and children safely in the crypt against a magical dude who can make every dead person return to life!

My sister totally predicted that.  Now, having seen it, I was a touch disappointed that we didn't see Sansa having to kill Dead-Ned after he crawled out of his own tomb.  I also expected a payoff for Sansa and the scene where Arya gave her the dagger.

Dragon fight!
Jon and Dany definitely could have used some radios and a few flying lessons from How to Train Your Dragon

OMG! All that dragon sky-fighting totally reminded me of How to Train your Dragon!

I don't follow the show, but I just read that the last episode is the most tweeted about in the history of television - closing in on eight million tweets.

By comparison, the final episode of M*A*S*H got zero tweets. 

Boru

A damn travesty.

I'm saying that for the scale and scope of the threat, for the entire battle to be over in a matter of hours was... unexpected.  Basically, the first major battle that the NK fights south of the wall and he's dead.  Seemed too easy for such an existential threat.

Why should it have been the first rather then the last ? And again easy by comparison to what ? Do you have some profound math that calculates how hard he should have been to beat ?

FFS, of course there's not math to calculate this stuff.

I wonder, though, if the last four episode would have more emotional impact and release if they were binged rather than released with a week in between to decompress.  In that case, then, we would have gotten the wall coming down, the troops gathering at Winterfell, the night before the battle of winterfell and then the long night back to back to back to back.

Maybe I'll try watching it like that this weekend.

Do I have time this weekend to spend four hours on my ass watching GOT?  Fuck it, I'll make it happen.

I'm not saying that the Dothraki would have been effective at Hardhome, I'm saying that Jon saw the kind of relentless onslaught of attack the army of the dead have and he still thought sending the Dothraki across a field in the dark without dragonglass weapons - because 100% they were not expecting Melisandre to show up and light their blades on fire - was monumentally bad planning.  The way it would have gone down without even the hope of Melisandre's fire blades would have been Jon doing exactly the stupid thing he was warning against: sending an ill-equipped army into battle against an enemy that would immediately kill that army and suck its victims into its own regiments was stupid.

Nor did I say you said it . I said they used the Dothraki in a way they inherently fight in really the only role they would be useful .

Homeless Nutter described a far better use of the Dothraki than charging them across a field to their immediate deaths.

And you realize their wasn't anywhere near enough dragon glass for everyone.

Exactly why the Dothraki should have been given dragon glass weapons: they're experienced fighters and were being used as the first wave of attack.  If they were going to send the Dothraki across a field to plow into the army of the dead they should have been given dragon glass weapons and their horses should have been outfitted with, like, spiked armor plate on their chests so whey they went plowing into the dead front lines the horses themselves would have been taking down enemies.  They should have been outfitted in the gnarliest dragon glass kit the living could muster, not only to make the first wave of attack the most effective it could be, but also give some of the most experienced fighters the best chance of living and fighting on.

The Dothraki should have the best of the dragon glass weapons, the Unsullied should have the best of the dragon glass weapons, the military "officers" and most experienced, battle-tried of the infantry should have had dragon glass weapons, and, it's shitty to say, but the everyday folk, the farmers, shopkeepers, and people with little to no experience in a battle should have gotten the hand weapons, the off-cuts, the shards, the chips...

With limited resources like with the dragon glass you want that shit in the hands of the people who can put it to the best use.

You can still have symbolic darkness and an episode where you can see what's happening

Wouldn't have been as scary

There are plenty of suspense, thriller, horror, and war movies that are dark but you can still see what's going on in them.

Predictability in story-telling is usually bad

Then you must hate an awful lot of stories

Yes, there's a lot of shit out there.

Like a Ramsay Bolton, Battle of the Bastards move.  Only problem is that since they're fighting at night and can see fuck-all they don't know when to attack flanks in order to encircle the dead.

Encircling the Nightking's army wouldn't be the idea. There would probably be too many of the undead and not enough Dothraki. And without long weapons and a wall of shields they couldn't enclose, or push the ice-zombies, anyway. But the main strength of light cavalry is mobility - quick attacks and retreats, which would have been easier from the sides of the attacking army approaching the castle. And while visibility was an issue, it seems to me, that once the undead reached the defense lines and were stopped by the fire-trench - that could have been a good time to charge their flanks. Better than a head on charge at the enemy you can't see at all, I think.

Ah, okay, I understand what you're saying now.  But I think we're in agreement that the initial Dothraki charge was a stupid waste.

The plan was that Davos would signal Dany and she would swoop in and her dragon would light the trenches but all the storm clouds and smoke blocked her view of the signal.  Davos commented on this in episode.

Sure, but I thought Dany was supposed to be focused on the Nightking and only ditched that plan and joined the battle, after she saw the Dothraki wiped out in seconds. She might not have been able to see Davos, or reach the trench in time anyway, if she was fighting the undead dragon. They  could have prepared a simpler, more fool-proof way to do it, in my opinion.

Ooo, good point.