RE: [Quranic Reflection] Animals are communities like us
May 7, 2019 at 10:10 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2019 at 10:11 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
Quote:And #3 is why I brought up the rest of my reasons he was wrong.
Ritual is the reason. The only reason.
It's not, you know. If it were the only reason, why did you drag up those idiotic irrelevancies about improperly cooked meat making people sick (which, by the way, has never, EVER caused a culture to ban eating a particular animal).
Quote:He did say "Maybe pigs have higher levels of consciousness".
Maybe they do. They're certainly smarter than dogs, and may be as smart as some primates.
Quote:It is true they do feel pain and do have emotions like humans. But they do not have the same level of complex communication as humans.
What does communicative ability have to do with consciousness? Again, you keep dragging in irrelevancies.
Quote:That is not to say humans are an apex of life, we are not.
If we aren't the apex of life (whatever than means), then what is?
Quote:But we are omnivores, like many other mammals. Including some species of pigs.
True, if trite and not on topic (and, so you know, ALL pigs are omnivorous, given the chance).
Quote:Atlass is simply trying to justify his religion, like any other theist does. I don't think he is a bad guy. But none of what he posted explains the nature of reality. It merely reflects his desire to be on the right track.
That would be a fair point, if Atlas were trying to explain the nature of reality. He isn't, so it's not.
Quote:Other species group yes. But to call them "communities" like humans is not correct and to use the Koran to justify the word "community" is not the same language as when evolutionary biologists talk of ecosystems and and groups.
WHY isn't it correct? How does a community of pigs or elephants or prairie dogs differ in any biological sense from a community of humans?
Quote:Atlass is trying to square his old book to modern knowledge, and it does not work.
In this thread, at least, he's doing nothing of the sort.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
Boru
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