(May 5, 2019 at 12:22 am)lowellwballard Wrote: For the 500th anniversary of the start of the Reformation (October 2017) I pulled together 95 ideas about how current christianity and our society may need reforms today. In doing that, a major theme seemed to emerge that substitutes for truth and reason are used for social and religious groups to be more successful.
While atheists obviously disagree with christians on many points, is there significant common ground between intellectual atheists and intellectual christian libertarians in that both want a return to focus on truth and intellectual freedom rather than marketing and social control?
For example, here are some propositions that I think we may generally agree on:
7. The use of fallacies in marketing can be more effective than the use of logical arguments, but there is only one valid way to choose beliefs: choose the set of beliefs that are most probably true.
46. Deductive logic requires inductive logic to support its premises. “Faith” is treating something that is probably true as if it is definitely true. Inductive logic is probabilistic and so requires faith. (that is different than the common religious definition of blind "faith").
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If you value the rights of minorities, I'll back you up every time. But for me, if the economic views don't support workers, that is where you lose me. It does no good to say you support LGBT, Muslims, or pot smokers, if they cant pay their bills.
It isn't a matter of "social control", it is a matter of equality, and economic equality. Economies are like a rubber band, you cant keep stretching it forever, at some point it will break.
A little inequity has to exist. Nobody should be against the private sector, but right now, there is far too much abuse at the top. And if your position is that more should be more independent, the cheapest way to do that would be to pay livable wages so less people turn to government.
