[split] What is next for the United States? [GUNS]

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Murdering babies in the womb is sickening.

I have an objection to using the word "sickening" as a replacement for "morally wrong." Morality is not based on what makes us feel ill or not. It is based on what is interpersonally destructive. I like to eat peanut butter, banana, and mayonnaise sandwiches. Some people may find that sickening. But by no means is it morally wrong.

 If you think there is an equal sign between what is "sickening" and what is "morally wrong"... there is a word for that- nihilism. Or more precisely, "nihilistic expressivism."

In meta-ethics, expressivism is a theory about the meaning of moral language. According to expressivism, sentences that employ moral terms – for example, "It is wrong to torture an innocent human being" – are not descriptive or fact-stating; moral terms such as "wrong", "good", or "just" do not refer to real, in-the-world properties. The primary function of moral sentences, according to expressivism, is not to assert any matter of fact, but rather to express an evaluative attitude toward an object of evaluation.[1] Because the function of moral language is non-descriptive, moral sentences do not have any truth conditions. Hence, expressivists either do not allow that moral sentences have truth value, or rely on a notion of truth that does not appeal to any descriptive truth conditions being met for moral sentences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressivism

If you think there is any truth value to the statement, "Murdering babies in the womb is wrong," be careful not to confuse that with how it personally makes you feel.

Yes, it is morally wrong.  I agree with much of what you said.

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And even outside the issue of abortion. If your argument is that humans should not play God, then you should never go to a doctor yourself. If God knows what he is doing, then doctors are fucking up his plan.

I believe doctors are sent by God.  They have a lot of responsibility on their hands but they get paid well for it.

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I do not understand how your comment is relevant 🤔

You wanted to avoid the word "morality" right?

I simply do not see how that is possible in our current climate, especially with all the logical inconsistencies coming from the right.

Just like guns, everyone can agree that nobody likes the current state of affairs, but nobody can agree on how to solve the problem.

I'd say the problem on both issues is not the left, but the fear of change bought and sold by the right.

Guns ownership is a Constitutional right which will remain in tact.  It is there to suppress a tyrannical government primarily, as well as for self-defense against criminals who will own the guns regardless.  The right is also included in the Constitution to defend against foreign invading armies.  That's why there will be no change.  It could mean war.