Of guns and fireworks OP/ED.......

[Brian37]

Before anyone goes off and claims that I am bringing up guns because they think I am trying to simply trying to bring attention to myself, just stop.

This has to do with ANY excess having to do with having a false sense of security when doing anything or handling a dangerous item.

This weekend a former NHL player was killed by fireworks. Every 4th of July there are stories of people who get injured or die or cause needless fires because they think they know what they are doing. The same can be said with drinking and driving. Humans far to often stupidly think that just because nothing happened for a period of time, nothing bad will happen ever. 

I see fireworks no different than guns, or driving. All of those things require knowledge, education, and a healthy respect that you cannot treat them like toys. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/05/sport...index.html

[The Grand Nudger]

Fireworks might be more inherently dangerous than a gun. They aren’t tight little machines with varying degrees of minimal tolerance before they fail to operate. They’re bundles of powder with a fuse made by the lowest bidder somewhere far far away. Last time I got mortars one exploded in the tube and cracked the blocks the tube was recessed into. Never had a rifle explode as I was loading it.

[Brian37]

Fireworks might be more inherently dangerous than a gun.  They aren’t tight little machines with varying degrees of minimal tolerance before they fail to operate.  They’re bundles of powder with a fuse made by the lowest bidder somewhere far far away.  Last time I got mortars one exploded in the tube and cracked the blocks the tube was recessed into.  Never had a rifle explode as I was loading it.

That is not the point. 

The point is human ignorance, arrogance, narcissism, regardless of topic. Humans far to often get complacent in their daily lives, and simply assume since something didn't go wrong with whatever for a period, nothing bad will ever go wrong.

No, a gun cant explode on it's own. But one can become complacent and falsely assume it isn't loaded when it is, and pull the trigger. Or they can leave it out and their kid gets a hold of it. I see that as no different than speeding and tailgating and passing on dividing lines on roads driving in on coming traffic. Getting away with something once, or for a period, doesn't mean you can't make a fatal mistake ever. It only takes once.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Before anyone goes off and claims that I am bringing up guns because they think I am trying to simply trying to bring attention to myself, just stop.

This has to do with ANY excess having to do with having a false sense of security when doing anything or handling a dangerous item.

This weekend a former NHL player was killed by fireworks. Every 4th of July there are stories of people who get injured or die or cause needless fires because they think they know what they are doing. The same can be said with drinking and driving. Humans far to often stupidly think that just because nothing happened for a period of time, nothing bad will happen ever. 

I see fireworks no different than guns, or driving. All of those things require knowledge, education, and a healthy respect that you cannot treat them like toys. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/05/sport...index.html

In other words, dangerous things are dangerous. Got it.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Fireworks might be more inherently dangerous than a gun.  They aren’t tight little machines with varying degrees of minimal tolerance before they fail to operate.  They’re bundles of powder with a fuse made by the lowest bidder somewhere far far away.  Last time I got mortars one exploded in the tube and cracked the blocks the tube was recessed into.  Never had a rifle explode as I was loading it.

That is not the point. 

The point is human ignorance, arrogance, narcissism, regardless of topic. Humans far to often get complacent in their daily lives, and simply assume since something didn't go wrong with whatever for a period, nothing bad will ever go wrong.

No, a gun cant explode on it's own. But one can become complacent and falsely assume it isn't loaded when it is, and pull the trigger. Or they can leave it out and their kid gets a hold of it. I see that as no different than speeding and tailgating and passing on dividing lines on roads driving in on coming traffic. Getting away with something once, or for a period, doesn't mean you can't make a fatal mistake ever. It only takes once.

In other words, careless people are careless. Good to know.

Boru

[onlinebiker]

And everyone should listen to you because you are an expert because your daddy fired off a .38 in the house.


Seems legit.....

[no one]

Very true BSB IV, very true indeed.




But a counter argument, ABBA!

See, now I win.

[arewethereyet]

Note to self - driving is just like messing with explosives.

[onlinebiker]

Note to self - driving is just like messing with explosives.

Friends don't let friends drive drunk while listening to ABBA.....

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[Brian37]

Before anyone goes off and claims that I am bringing up guns because they think I am trying to simply trying to bring attention to myself, just stop.

This has to do with ANY excess having to do with having a false sense of security when doing anything or handling a dangerous item.

This weekend a former NHL player was killed by fireworks. Every 4th of July there are stories of people who get injured or die or cause needless fires because they think they know what they are doing. The same can be said with drinking and driving. Humans far to often stupidly think that just because nothing happened for a period of time, nothing bad will happen ever. 

I see fireworks no different than guns, or driving. All of those things require knowledge, education, and a healthy respect that you cannot treat them like toys. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/05/sport...index.html

In other words, dangerous things are dangerous. Got it.

Boru

Yes, and?

Ok, so we both agree. So the issue should not be about danger, but attitude about that danger and ignoring the danger.

ATTITUDE, is the issue. Yes, there are dangers in life. But humans far too often have selection bias and sample rate error, on top of fear of being wrong.

If JFK depended on the "no rules" mindset of the NRA as a blueprint for the Apollo program, America would not have been the first to the moon. The Apollo 13 team would have died. 

Even with aviation and space flight, there is no comparison between the accidents in space travel vs the amount of daily firearm deaths every day. 

Sully would not have successfully landed the plane on the Hudson, if he had the bullshit attitude of MTG or Laura Boebert.