(May 15, 2019 at 1:00 am)CDF47 Wrote:(May 15, 2019 at 12:06 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: I have an objection to using the word "sickening" as a replacement for "morally wrong." Morality is not based on what makes us feel ill or not. It is based on what is interpersonally destructive. I like to eat peanut butter, banana, and mayonnaise sandwiches. Some people may find that sickening. But by no means is it morally wrong.
If you think there is an equal sign between what is "sickening" and what is "morally wrong"... there is a word for that- nihilism. Or more precisely, "nihilistic expressivism."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressivism
If you think there is any truth value to the statement, "Murdering babies in the womb is wrong," be careful not to confuse that with how it personally makes you feel.
Yes, it is morally wrong. I agree with much of what you said.
(May 15, 2019 at 12:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: And even outside the issue of abortion. If your argument is that humans should not play God, then you should never go to a doctor yourself. If God knows what he is doing, then doctors are fucking up his plan.
I believe doctors are sent by God. They have a lot of responsibility on their hands but they get paid well for it.
(May 15, 2019 at 12:50 am)Brian37 Wrote: You wanted to avoid the word "morality" right?
I simply do not see how that is possible in our current climate, especially with all the logical inconsistencies coming from the right.
Just like guns, everyone can agree that nobody likes the current state of affairs, but nobody can agree on how to solve the problem.
I'd say the problem on both issues is not the left, but the fear of change bought and sold by the right.
Guns ownership is a Constitutional right which will remain in tact. It is there to suppress a tyrannical government primarily, as well as for self-defense against criminals who will own the guns regardless. The right is also included in the Constitution to defend against foreign invading armies. That's why there will be no change. It could mean war.
You go Rambo, Mel Gibson, Dirty Harry.
Tell you what Sparky, if you insist on being such a strict originalist, you can have a Musket. And just like abortion, humans know a lot more about technology, medicine an science than we did centuries ago.
If a Muslim argued with you that Allah picks the sex of the baby based on congealed blood, and quoted a Koran verse as proof, would that convince you that Allah is the real God? I actually had a Muslim argue that years ago.
Funny how 7 billion humans with our countless religions all argue we got it right.
If abortion is murder then to be logically consistent Israel is tyrannical because they value "murdering in the womb" as you stupidly describe.
You go on with your bad self Snack Patriot.
