[Serious] An Argument Against Hedonistic Moral Realism

[SenseMaker007]

Correct! Moral realism is true if the foundation of values is something that is true independent of human opinion ... not independent of human minds altogether.

Then doesn't the rest of your argument suffer as a result? I think you're on to something valid here, but the structure of your argument seems to need a little tweaking.

Boru

The rest of the argument certainly does suffer as a result.

As for my motives: I was originally going to make a thread explaining why mind-independence should not be a condition for moral realism because I've seen too many moral realists who aren't hedonistic insist that moral realism has to be mind-independent.

But I think that this approach was much more effective.