New gulf war?

[The Valkyrie]

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I wrote this topic after a very strange and furious escalation in the Middle East.
A previous post presceded this one and you can read about it here:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-58939.html

Donald Trump's role is obvious as sunlight now: the man wants a war. It will help him save his neck from his enemies' investigations in the U.S.

Other madmen who lead countries like Saudi Arabia and the UAE will eat with Trump; sharing the loot with him.

Right now, there is one scary escalation in the persian gulf:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/16/polit...index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/16/polit...index.html

Also, the Houthies in Yemen took their operations to a whole new level and began to hammer Saudi oil pipelines with drones:

http://time.com/5588819/saudi-arabia-oil...ack-yemen/



We know one thing about the U.S: it did lie once to the whole world in 2003, claiming that Saddam had WMDs. They also supported Iran's terrorists in Iraq; just like they are supporting Saudi Arabia's terrorists like MBS.

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No; if this started for real it will be a world war.

The lie was there where no WMDs

Chris Kyle (american sniper fame) documents finding the WMDs at the bottom of a cement hauling freighter they boarded his seal team had to unload by hand. at the bottom of this barge the found shipping containers which held rockets and chemical weapons. They where being moved from iraq to sirera 

Then you have these instances:

In 2004, hundreds of chemical warheads were recovered from the desert close to the Iran–Iraq border. According to the Washington Post, the munitions "had been buried near the Iranian border, and then long forgotten, by Iraqi troops during their eight-year war with Iran". 
The Iraqi government informed the United Nations in 2014 that insurgents affiliated with the Islamic State terror group had seized control of the Muthana State Establishment, including a chemical weapons depot northwest of Baghdad. The facility was partially destroyed and placed under the supervision of UNSCOM following the 1991 Gulf War. It housed some 2,500 sarin-filled rockets at the time of their departure in 1999. 

2005: Operation Avarice[edit]

In 2005, the CIA collaborated with the Army Intelligence Corps in contacting an unnamed Iraqi individual who had knowledge and possession of all chemical WMD stockpiles and munitions in Iraq.[118] The operation was classified from the public and from most of the armed forces.[118] In addition, chemical specialists and ordnance disposal units were assigned to the task to aid in the destruction of recovered WMDs.[118]

The mission resulted in the largest recovery of chemical weapons during the Iraq war. It was confirmed that these weapons were remnants of the Iraqi weapons program first developed during the Iran-Iraq war and confirmed that the Hussein government had failed to dismantle and dispose WMDs in its possession. The collaboration between American military intelligence and the unnamed Iraqi proprietor resulted in minimal attacks on U.S. military and coalition personnel or Iraqi citizenry from WMDs on a scale seen during the Iran-Iraq war, although minor attacks still occurred.[118]

2006: House Armed Services Committee Hearing[edit]

On June 21, 2006 the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released key points from a classified report provided to them by the National Ground Intelligence Center on the recovery of chemical weapons in Iraq.[119] The declassified summary stated that "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent", that chemical munitions "are assessed to still exist" and that they "could be sold on the black market".[120] All weapons were thought to be manufactured in the 1980s and date to Iraq's war with Iran.[119] The report prompted US Senator Rick Santorum to hold a press conference in which he declared "We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."[121]

New York Times investigative report[edit]

In October 2014, the New York Times reported that the total number of munitions discovered since 2003 had climbed to 4,990, and that U.S. servicemen had been exposed and injured during the disposal and destruction process.[126][127] US soldiers reporting exposure to mustard gas and sarin allege they were required to keep their exposure secret, sometimes declined admission to hospital and evacuation home despite the request of their commanders. "We were absolutely told not to talk about it" by a colonel, a former sergeant said.[127] "All [munitions] had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area."[127]
According to the investigative report, "many chemical weapons incidents clustered around the ruins of the Muthanna State Establishment, the center of Iraqi chemical agent production in the 1980s." The facility had fallen under the supervision of United Nations weapons inspectors after the first Gulf War and was known to house approximately 2,500 corroded chemical munitions, but the vast building complex was left unmanned once hostilities commenced in 2003 and was subject to looting.[127] Participants in the discoveries postulated another reason to conceal their exposure, as some of the chemical shells "appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies."[127]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_w...estruction

The deal was The governments PLURAL Meaning the US and the UK did not want a war on 3 fronts (syria) afghanistan and iraq and possibly any other syrian buddies/did not want to kick off ISIS. So bush took one for the team..

It should be our responsibility to exonerate great leaders for all of the FAKE NEWS and propaganda fed to us when we have the vantage of time.

But here most of us are still sucking on the tit of fake news for all of our thoughts and world commentary!

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Does this individual's hypocrisy truly surprise people any longer?

Iran is in violation of that all important treaty you douche bags want the us to be apart of. they are building ballistic missiles that can deliver a nuclear payload!

Plus they made 5 demands 2 having the US and europe drop the censorship on ballistic missile development, meaning we can't prohibit them for making WMDs (It is confirmed they do have chemical and biological agents) now they want nukes.

They want all of their sanctions lifted and europe to buy their oil at their set market price along with the bennies of EU and the US basically paying them like clinton paid North korea not to build nuclear weapons..

So with this in mind... what hypocrisy?

Obama's plan was to pay them off till it was well outside of his presidential legacy to deal with.

Trump says he is not going to pay a bully to not blow us up in 15 years. rather if they are hell bent on a war let them know it will be their building streets and homes that will be the battle field and not our own.

in 15 years if obama's plan was allow to maturate, they could push a button and bring the war to us or anyone else on the planet.

You dumb asses need to think before you speak. stop letting fake new tell you what is going on. open your eye read shite for yourself. learn some mf-ing history and look for these patterns happening in that region again and again.

1. I was referring to all the times your favourite piece of shit claimed Obama was going to go to war with Iran to distract people from all his mistakes.

2. Until now, I've always refrained from name calling in your direction. So, don't start it with me, you pompous cunt!