RE: Invitation for Atheists to Debate a Christian via Skype
June 16, 2019 at 2:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2019 at 2:21 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 16, 2019 at 1:43 am)Belaqua Wrote: I think that if there are laws of nature floating around waiting for the universe to pop up, it means there was something already. Perhaps not tangible, countable somethings, but laws. And since the standard argument says that the First Cause is not tangible, nothing Krauss says rules out a First Cause.
I don't think that anyone imagines that the laws of the nature were floating around waiting for the universe to pop up. More to the effect that, because the universe popped up as it did, that constrained what could or would most likely happen in regular ways. If the universe popped up different, the laws of nature could be different.
In that sense, if our intuition about the potential veracity of first cause arguments is thinking that there must have been something for those laws to essentially wait in, we might be profoundly in error.
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