RE: Here’s my question.
July 15, 2019 at 4:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2019 at 4:13 pm by Drich.)
(July 15, 2019 at 11:45 am)Athene Wrote: Oh! So you DO acknowledge that these things did indeed happen. I assumed that you didn't due to the way I've seen you yammer on about wonderful and idyllic America was in the 40's and 50's. You just don't think that being denied the ability to own/keep a home and build wealth could possibly have any real impact on families just a generation or so later.in the 40 and 50s the black marriage rate was far higher than whites, so for the purpose of this discussion for black people it was a good time for their communities (if you were not in the south.)
It's ALL about the unmarried sex. Gotcha.
Quote:Everyone knows that Hispanics, Asians and other minorities were deeply impacted by these policies. They were WHITES ONLY policies.what a dishonest pos you are.
In your racist rush to grossly oversimplify matters and lap up the stereotype of being a "model" minority, you've IGNORED the fact that Hispanic families continue to be overrepresented among the poor in the US and that Southeast Asians have some of the highest poverty rates in this country. Your insistence that all Asians are thriving is untrue.
Most asians are doing better than the average white person in america today.
https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/06/...americans/
Then to call out south east asians.. sweet heart they may be the poorest people in the world outside south america, but unlike south american the US will simply not allow them in if they have nothing to contribute, can't speak the language or can not work a skilled job.
https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dic...-americans
So working from your stereotype this is true that south eastern asian are poor but not if they come here.
what s also true is blacks in africa are also worse off than blacks in america and if/when the poorest of the poor are thrust into an american society or environment alone they too will fail 10 times out of 11. How ever where the asian succeeds and the african fails is the support structure Asian offer each other because all are seen as apart of the same family.
Did you know in my moms church there is a program for newcomers to america. if one is shown to be honorable/family and responsible they are offered seed money by the other koreans in the community to start their own business or store. This is not true with every group but what is true is an asian will go across town to buy from another asian passing several other like stores or shops just to support another asian. they pay this money back over time with no interest but with the promise to help the next family get started. Not every group does this but all suport each other.
When that korean guy shot up the collage campus a few years ago all first gen koreans felt a personal collective shame for one of them having raise a killer who killed innocent people. again not that koreas or asian are better but I say this to show how strong the family and community bond is.
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Again it is the bond between husband and wife and a strong family foundation, where men are often groomed to be fathers from a very young age, while black males regard free sex and conquesting as many women as possible they even brag about how many illegitimate children they have, as if it where something to be proud of. This broken family dynamic is why it is so much harder for someone any one to get a loan. A problem just about
My, your racist broadbrushing is remarkably detailed. How charming.
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I called it! I'm a racist because I am posting facts documented by several neutral sources that you do not like!
That is why you fail!
because it is my fault you don't want to be told you highness is not wearing not cloths.
(July 15, 2019 at 3:54 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(July 15, 2019 at 10:13 am)FDrich Wrote: You do know identifying a common social trait or a common social fault is not racism. racism is when you use such a trait to isolate or discriminate against a whole people.
Bold mine:
Quote:Racism is the belief that a particular race is superior or inferior to another, that a person’s social and moral traits are predetermined by his or her inborn biological characteristics
https://www.adl.org/racism
The article in question comes dangerously close to insinuating as much. The most generous I can be is to say that the author’s failure to approach any tangible, measurable cause for this phenomenon in improvised, black communities leaves the door wide open for racist interpretations.
Ok lets go with that... now show me where the article mentions race let alone blacks where predetermined to act this way.
Quote:Sure. And, I’m not arguing against the hypothesis that family breakdown contributes to individual failure and societal breakdown. I’m only pointing out that if someone’s answer to the follow-up question: “Well, why are there so many broken families in African American communities?” is, “because, that’s just how the black folk are”, that person is a racist.
no did not say that. I said look at who is in jail. more whites than black almost double. then I asked do these men come from a mom and dad family or did they come from a mom only family... Then I point out that a lager percentage of black people populate prison which is in correlation to the decline of marriage and the increases of available free sex in that specific society.
The distinction here was to point out larger numbers of whites populate prison and come from a broken home
But a larger percentage of black men meaning a larger percentage of black men in the community have problems adapting to prime american culture (where asians spanish whites and blacks all come together and live under the rule of social and legal authority, for the ame reason a smaller percentage of white men but a larger number of whites are in prison. these men re with out the structure and discipline that a full time father contributes to the family structure.
I did not isolate black people here. I point out a universal truth and used black people and their social decline in the last 50 years as an example because again it is well charted and documented, as the family declined the numbers of black men being imprisoned raised. which again is mirrored in other cultures but is not as well known or observed as in the black community.