Question for Christians Here!

[themonkeyman]

Howdie Christians,

I have been reading some Gnostic works and I have a rather interesting question that I need you to Biblically explain in any way you can.

1) God is not evil in any way so where did Evil come from, Surely it has to exist which means it needed to be created in which case either God created Evil or Evil exists alongside God?

Saying that going against God is evil is flawed as God himself would not create a being that is capable of going against him or create a being that is able to do evil as this would mean that God created evil?

2) If God can do anything he so desires in existence, Is it therefore possible for him to create a God identical to himself in power and might that cannot be undone?

If you say yes to this then I pose the next question

3) If God created another God identical in every way then how is this God able to exist as God is the Beginning and the End therefore this second God would come before the First God before it was ever created later?

And lastly!

After reading Gnostic works it would appear that their interpretation is that Satan is the God of the old Testament and that Jesus came to remove peoples deceptions.

It is explained that God who put the tree in the Garden which caused Adam to fall from grace was actually Satan and hence would render Jesus correct when he said that "Satan is the ruler of this world".

Can you consolidate this so that it makes sense. Did God create beings that were capable to do evil as surely doing this would mean that God had to give them the attribute to be evil in which case means that God creates evil?

[Sejanus]

3) If God created another God identical in every way then how is this God able to exist as God is the Beginning and the End therefore this second God would come before the First God before it was ever created later?

[LastPoet]

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Its all fantasy!

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[Drich]

Howdie Christians,

I have been reading some Gnostic works and I have a rather interesting question that I need you to Biblically explain in any way you can.

1) God is not evil in any way so where did Evil come from, Surely it has to exist which means it needed to be created in which case either God created Evil or Evil exists alongside God?

Evil is not a force despite what we are told. Evil is a state of mind or action that identifies a person as being in willful and intentional definance of God's expressed will/His law.
(Sin is anything not in God's expressed will, we can sin and not be evil.)

Saying that going against God is evil is flawed as God himself would not create a being that is capable of going against him or create a being that is able to do evil as this would mean that God created evil?

Why not? The bible tells us this is exactly what God did. He wanted us to want to be with Him. in order for us to choose Him we must have first been given the choice to go against Him, otherwise our choice to select God as our Lord would have been His and not our own.

2) If God can do anything he so desires in existence, Is it therefore possible for him to create a God identical to himself in power and might that cannot be undone?

If He wanted I suppose He could.

If you say yes to this then I pose the next question

3) If God created another God identical in every way then how is this God able to exist as God is the Beginning and the End therefore this second God would come before the First God before it was ever created later?

Whaa?

And lastly!

After reading Gnostic works it would appear that their interpretation is that Satan is the God of the old Testament and that Jesus came to remove peoples deceptions.

It is explained that God who put the tree in the Garden which caused Adam to fall from grace was actually Satan and hence would render Jesus correct when he said that "Satan is the ruler of this world".

Can you consolidate this so that it makes sense. Did God create beings that were capable to do evil as surely doing this would mean that God had to give them the attribute to be evil in which case means that God creates evil?

Again, you or the gnostics seem to see evil as a force, when it is the identification of a simple choice to rebell against God. God gave man the choice to rebell someone not only take Him up on His offer we choose to stay and live there.

Also the reason Satan was refered to the ruler of this world is because he is. This world this life is the cloest thing satan will ever have to a kingdom. Hell is not satan's domain. Hell is where satan will be punished for eternity. When God Cast satan and his followers out, they were cast out to earth where man/Adam ruled. After the Fall Satan because the ruler through sin. Man still has dominion over the world, but Satan has dominion over man, therfore the actual ruler of this world. When Christ was tempted Satan offered Him dominion over this world and over all people if Christ would bow down to him (which would have made satan ruler over Christ) which would be meaningless if Satan did not have power and authority over the world.

[Mudhammam]

Clearly, God could not create an identical God if God is by nature uncaused. My question for you: Is it better for God to create versus not create when the creation must inevitably do Evil? If Evil is not inevitable, what's Freedom?

[Godscreated]

Another baited question and one that has stipulations attached.

GC

[Mudhammam]

Another baited question and one that has stipulations attached.

GC

Elaborate?

[xr34p3rx]

Howdie Christians,

I have been reading some Gnostic works and I have a rather interesting question that I need you to Biblically explain in any way you can.

1) God is not evil in any way so where did Evil come from, Surely it has to exist which means it needed to be created in which case either God created Evil or Evil exists alongside God?

Saying that going against God is evil is flawed as God himself would not create a being that is capable of going against him or create a being that is able to do evil as this would mean that God created evil?

2) If God can do anything he so desires in existence, Is it therefore possible for him to create a God identical to himself in power and might that cannot be undone?

If you say yes to this then I pose the next question

3) If God created another God identical in every way then how is this God able to exist as God is the Beginning and the End therefore this second God would come before the First God before it was ever created later?

And lastly!

After reading Gnostic works it would appear that their interpretation is that Satan is the God of the old Testament and that Jesus came to remove peoples deceptions.

It is explained that God who put the tree in the Garden which caused Adam to fall from grace was actually Satan and hence would render Jesus correct when he said that "Satan is the ruler of this world".

Can you consolidate this so that it makes sense. Did God create beings that were capable to do evil as surely doing this would mean that God had to give them the attribute to be evil in which case means that God creates evil?

1) Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
yes god did create evil but xians prefer to ignore it and make a dodge to those questions.

2) Im sure he can, but since he prefers to be the only god alive, he chooses not to.

3) a bit confusing but i think you are referring to the argument of infinite creators.

4) Yes. satan was only the ruler of the world but not a god, although he could be one. The whole garden thing is stupid. a talking snake convinces a rib woman to eat from the forbidden fruit that god said not to using reverse psychology hence made it easier for eve to be convinced whereas if god didnt say anything about it, we would all be perfect...