Here’s my question.

[Athene]

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Oh! So you DO acknowledge that these things did indeed happen. I assumed that you didn't due to the way I've seen you yammer on about wonderful and idyllic America was in the 40's and 50's. You just don't think that being denied the ability to own/keep a home and build wealth could possibly have any real impact on families just a generation or so later.

It's ALL about the unmarried sex. Gotcha.   

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in the 40 and 50s the black marriage rate was far higher than whites, so for the purpose of this discussion for black people it was a good time for their communities (if you were not in the south.)

Really? And all of the non-Southern Black families who were essentially forced to move into public housing due to government-sanctioned housing discrimination (or pay the tremendous cost of living in home via contract selling in which they afforded ZERO equity) were experiencing "good times"?

Say, you DO know what happened to most of the remaining working and middle-class Blacks neighborhoods where all those nice married couple lived once the Federal Highway Act of 1956 was passed don't you? They were scouted and deemed to be "ideal" locations for running the Interstate Highway System through.

So they were demolished.

True story.

what s also true is blacks in africa are also worse off than blacks in america and if/when the poorest of the poor are thrust into an american society or environment alone they too will fail 10 times out of 11. How ever where the asian succeeds and the african fails is the support structure Asian offer each other because all are seen as apart of the same family.

Yet interestingly enough:
It Isn't Just Asian Immigrants Who Excel in the US
African Immigrants More Educated Than Most- Including Those Born in the US
The Most Successful Ethnic Group in the US May Suprise You
Africa is Sending it's Best and Brightest

Are you ever going to learn to start looking shit up before you start posting your thoughts all willy-nilly?

When that korean guy shot up the collage campus a few years ago all first gen koreans felt a personal collective shame for one of them having raise a killer who killed innocent people. again not that koreas or asian are better but I say this to show how strong the family and community bond is.

I see. How fascinating.
Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion of collective guilt in situations such as these. I see no logical reason to feel responsible for the misdeeds of others who simply happen to share the same phenotype as me.

Bold mine:

https://www.adl.org/racism

The article in question comes dangerously close to insinuating as much. The most generous I can be is to say that the author’s failure to approach any tangible, measurable cause for this phenomenon in improvised, black communities leaves the door wide open for racist interpretations. 

no did not say that. I said look at who is in jail. more whites than black almost double. then I asked do these men come from a mom and dad family or did they come from a mom only family... Then I point out that a lager percentage of black people populate prison which is in correlation to the decline of marriage and the increases of available free sex in that specific society.

The distinction here was to point out larger numbers of whites populate prison and come from a broken home

But a larger percentage of black men meaning a larger percentage of black men in the community have problems adapting to prime american culture (where asians spanish whites and blacks all come together and live under the rule of social and legal authority, for the ame reason a smaller percentage of white men but a larger number of whites are in prison. these men re with out the structure and discipline that a full time father contributes to the family structure.

Yeah, I see what you did there, Slick.  

You know...The way you not-so-cleverly omitted marriage-oriented NON-WHITE Hispanic and Latino populations who continue to deeply impacted by poverty and related issues as well because it FUCKS UP your bullshit narrative from multiple angles.

LMFAO...Busted again.
How many times does that make now?

I'll give you a pass on continuing to cling to your "model minority" Asian stereotype, seeing as though you probably hadn't seen the citations I posted that debunk that particular myth when you composed this horseshit.


*bolding done by me for emphasis*

I did not isolate black people here. I point out a universal truth and used black people and their social decline in the last 50 years as an example because again it is well charted and documented, as the family declined the numbers of black men being imprisoned raised. which again is mirrored in other cultures but is not as well known or observed as in the black community.

 
Again, you grossly oversimplify matters in attributing poverty and related issues to the sudden adoption of "free sex" attitude in the 60's and ignoring every one of discriminatory structural policies including privatization of prisons and sentencing guidelines that targeted the poorest populations in the low-income areas that Uncle Sam moved heaven and earth to create. 

Yes, there is dysfunction within the Black community, but it is undeniable that the US government has indeed made countless, concerted efforts to prevent Black Americans from advancing n this country. Don't tell me "No" because I've provided several examples of how the US enacted policies that were explicitly designed to dick Black veterans and "good" Black families out of any reasonable shot at achieving the American Dream and cripple Blacks socially and economically for generations to come.

So the question is how much of that of dysfunction is result is from a mere lack of moral character and/or trying and how much of it is actually the result of being worn the fuck down by being reviled and feared to such a degree that this country has gone out it's fucking way to take measures ensuring that Blacks would remain a permanent, hated underclass since it's very inception? The world may never know, but I've sure as hell got enough sense to know that all this shit isn't the sole result of not attempting assimilate well enough or having "the unmarried sex".

What I do know is that your argument is absolutely trash, Drich. It's almost entirely based on racist stereotypes and debunked presumptions and is careless and shoddy as fuck.