(July 16, 2019 at 10:46 am)Grandizer Wrote:It may be complex, but I don't think it's difficult, which is probably my biases talking. To quote you're decent link "He is three in a different way than he is one." People may find it more difficult because it seems to be self-contradictory. If you can understand "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" then you can understand this concept (not that you don't of course). That is why I clarified earlier, 3 beings (in relation) one nature (in essence) and 1x1x1=1. Regardless, I believe at least you and I are on the same page as to what the Trinity is, just not whether it's a comprehendible or well demonstrable abstract idea.
@LadyForCamus - Thanks I try to be. Actually on that honesty note, I think I missed addressing a question you had, but I can't seem to find it. If I didn't address anything it's merely due to my inability to organize , not my unwillingness to address.
"doesn’t cause to you re-evaluate those levels?" - regularly, hence my mere presence here.
"Would you agree that if you were raised Muslim, your confidence level in the proposition that Jesus is the son of god would be far lower than it is today?" I can't see that it would be less confident than the "average miracle" but yes lower than it is today.
"Based on that example, would you say that indoctrination is a valid method for arriving at confidence levels about such claims? " valid as a tool, definitely not. Acknowledgeable, as an influence on the lens of experience, definitely. I can't take the green tint out of my view of the world without acknowledging that my lens has some green in it, but that doesn't mean there isn't a color green on the other side of that lens.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari