(July 20, 2019 at 6:05 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(July 20, 2019 at 10:16 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Humans are not part of nature?
Humans are not the fruit of nature’s unstinting and ongoing effort to formulate ever more sophisticated and ingenious mechanisms to affect ever crueler tortures upon, well, previous generations of less sophisticated and less ingenious torturers?
Point taken. Colloquially, we sometimes divide humans from "the rest of nature" to do comparing/contrasting. That's what I was doing.
But, yup, humans are a part of nature, and (in the final analysis) human cruelties are also nature's cruelties.
Schopenhauer said that animals live in a hell where the devils are people.