RE: Divine Inspiration
July 27, 2019 at 12:26 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2019 at 2:24 am by Haipule.)
(July 5, 2019 at 12:21 pm)tackattack Wrote: No I'm not claiming it's a math book or a history book. I started off by pointing out to Fierce that the claims of the Bible as a science book, (History or math as well) is pretty ridiculous mainly because of it's purpose. Seen in the context and understanding of it's time, for what it's purpose was I feel it's very effective. If you're trying to use the Bible as a taxonomy or mathematics handbook you're headed the wrong direction, IMO.Unicorns can't exist. Can you imagine a unicorn fight? It's ugly! When a young philly winks her eye... "Stop that!' "Your gonna poke somebody's eye out!"'
Side note-I do love unicorns and although I've never seen one personally, believe they exist because of the Bible (and a few other sources).
(July 25, 2019 at 1:41 am)soldierofGod Wrote:Okay, the idea of "Trinity" came in the 2nd century through a Latin speaking clown named Tertullian who gave us 'trinitas' and that predates Mohammad and the Nicene Creed. No such concept existed before the 2nd century AD. Nothing in the OT ever teaches such things. No Jew believes in a "Trinity". How could they ever when even Jesus said He is God? They just don't trust that the Mashiyach has came in the flesh. That makes them antichristos in Greek according to the epistles of John(the only place where that word is used). Hebrew: mashiyach/Greek: christos--they both are adjectives meaning: "Anointed-One" meaning anointed with a given purpose and destiny. There is no other one future Antichrist in the book of Revelation or any other book of the bible.(July 16, 2019 at 3:21 pm)tackattack Wrote: 1. My understanding of the entirety of Muslim belief is shallow, so please forgive any misconceptions. The short answer no not zero. To my knowledge they are to read the torah, New Testament and Quran and I believe another book. I believe they acknowledge Jesus as the head prophet and a miracle worker. I believe I would really question if I'm supposed to believe this guy Jesus when he says he is the son of God. I would probably be some sort of messianic Imam. Like a messianic Jew but for Allah. I mean they accept miracles and are supposed to believe the prophets but if the prophet says he's the Son of God, but there can't be a son of God, because God is one.. doesn't follow to me. I think the major incompatibility is the divinity of Jesus and the Trinity, plus the additional books and a belief in prophets (some Christian denominations do the latter).Jesus is the Prophet of God, not His son. This was added during the Nicene Council after Jesus left. Jesus never claimed to be the son of God (Allah). The "Father" is God, the "Son" is Jesus and the "Holy Spirit" is the Angel Gabriel.
2. Using the same analogy. There are 2 points. I don't believe people can train themselves out of their unconscious biases, by definition. To identify biases I use tools like Joharri's Window and Inter-observer reliability tests to help identify biases. Your question was about minimizing bias, though. For that I use things like seeking fairness, consistent review or continuous improvement, refining and clarity of concepts and beliefs, multiple reliable source inputs, a situational approach and I tend to self-dialogue with a six hat method. If you're not familiar with that I will get you a link.
By taking a good self-inventory and minimizing the tint in your lens that you have identified as green, all those things outside that you thought were green would then stand out as something different or change too, which would necessitate a change in paradigm. A forest green would still be consistently forest green even though your tint is now more olive. you would notice no change in those things that are substantially (not necessarily objectively) true and be able to detect less of what is now in alignment with your new abstract paradigm. You bump that up against your self-inventory , look for any cognitive dissonance and start again.
The "Holy Spirt" merely refers to written Scripture. Holy/qadash/hagion = pure, undefiled, special, unique, separating a class from a class or, used only for special purposes like your best china. pneuma, transliterated into English as 'spirit' by the Latin word 'spiritus' which means breath, means: A breathed in intellect gleaned from an exterior source. "All Scripture is theopneustos/God-breathed" 2 Tim 3:16 NIV.
So when Mark said in Mark 12:36 NASV, "David said in the Holy Spirit" merely is saying that David said something in the God-breathed Scriptures specifically Psalm 110. Really? Was that too simple for you?
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I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9
I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!
When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!
I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.