RE: Deconversion and some doubts
July 27, 2019 at 10:40 am
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2019 at 11:07 am by Acrobat.)
(July 27, 2019 at 8:40 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(July 27, 2019 at 4:20 am)Acrobat Wrote: No, I was referring to things I’m tempted to do, and the barrier between doing it and not doing it, is that conscience voice, telling us that something is wrong.
And the barrier between us thinking 2+2=5 is social conditioning. Understanding of mathematics has nothing to do with it. Even if you have a PhD in mathematics, once you begin to reject social conditioning, you are bound to accept some absurdity like 2+2=5. Is that what you're saying?
The fact is, people are conditioned to think that 2+2=4. But to say 2+2 equalling 4 is a product of conditioning (and nothing more) is a misstatement.
Let’s work with this analogy here.
If I have two apples and acquired two additional apples, I’ll have four in total.
So when I say 2+2 = 4, I am indicating something descriptive.
Now when someone says it’s wrong for me to keep/ steal your wallet, it’s not merely descriptive, they’re not just trying to tell me about the physical consequences of doing so, all of which I could be well aware of, but something prescriptive as well, they’re saying I ought not steal.
Do you believe that statement that I ought not steal is objectively true, as 2+2 = 4?
Suppose I am a moral nihilist, who believes there’s nothing truly right or wrong about anything, that there’s nothing morally wrong about me stealing your wallet, what facts am I denying here?