Deconversion and some doubts

[GrandizerII]

And the barrier between us thinking 2+2=5 is social conditioning. Understanding of mathematics has nothing to do with it. Even if you have a PhD in mathematics, once you begin to reject social conditioning, you are bound to accept some absurdity like 2+2=5. Is that what you're saying?

The fact is, people are conditioned to think that 2+2=4. But to say 2+2 equalling 4 is a product of conditioning (and nothing more) is a misstatement.

Let’s work with this analogy here.

If I have two apples and acquired two additional apples, I’ll have four in total.
So when I say 2+2 = 4, I am indicating something descriptive.

Now when someone says it’s wrong for me to keep/ steal your wallet, it’s not merely descriptive, they’re not just trying to tell me about the physical consequences of doing so, all of which I could be well aware of, but something prescriptive as well, they’re saying I ought not steal.

Do you believe that statement that I ought not steal is objectively true, as 2+2 = 4?

Suppose I am a moral nihilist, who believes there’s nothing truly right or wrong about anything, that there’s nothing morally wrong about me stealing your wallet, what facts am I denying here?

Ought is based on unwritten but agreed upon rules that ensure we live in a society that respects people's rights and thereby our own rights, because it's in our best interest that our (and other people's) rights be respected.