RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
July 29, 2019 at 4:30 pm
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2019 at 4:37 pm by Tom Fearnley.)
"Are virtual particles matter? " I'm not sure what a virtual particle is. I would say matter isn't non-matter, it's anything made of atoms, no?
I don't understand " we are not particularly good yet at predicting what emergent properties are possible in large system over long time horizons".
Some intelligent properties could emerge if you exclude neurons, I agree. But for the complete package material things are needed, like dopamine + neurons to create the non-matter / immaterial properties like thought and memory, is what I'm saying.
Immaterial:
philosophy
spiritual, rather than physical.
Spiritual:
relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.
Spirit:
The non-physical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
Non-physical:
not relating to or concerning the body.
Soul:
the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.
I think we can clearly see that the definition immaterial just sends us in a circle from "immaterial" back to "soul". 'Immaterial means soul and soul means immaterial.'
Also how can something not have a body, including neurons plus other chemicals and be intelligent? A contradiction.
So we can be charitable and go with immaterial meaning "non-matter" so at least then the word has some meaning. But that just brings me back to the "incomplete intelligence" arguments I used above.
I don't understand " we are not particularly good yet at predicting what emergent properties are possible in large system over long time horizons".
Some intelligent properties could emerge if you exclude neurons, I agree. But for the complete package material things are needed, like dopamine + neurons to create the non-matter / immaterial properties like thought and memory, is what I'm saying.
Immaterial:
philosophy
spiritual, rather than physical.
Spiritual:
relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.
Spirit:
The non-physical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.
Non-physical:
not relating to or concerning the body.
Soul:
the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.
I think we can clearly see that the definition immaterial just sends us in a circle from "immaterial" back to "soul". 'Immaterial means soul and soul means immaterial.'
Also how can something not have a body, including neurons plus other chemicals and be intelligent? A contradiction.
So we can be charitable and go with immaterial meaning "non-matter" so at least then the word has some meaning. But that just brings me back to the "incomplete intelligence" arguments I used above.
