Deconversion and some doubts

[GrandizerII]

It's not simply this one general rule, it's a set of more specific ones. Remember, I said the rules are unwritten, and they are often implied (not explicit). And in some cases, quite circumstantial and malleable.

I gave you a few examples already of social powers setting oughts and ought nots.

Now you tell me where are you getting the oughts and ought nots, if it's not from human beings employing reason (or even not employing it well). If (as you say) we ought not to steal because stealing is wrong, what is making stealing wrong? Sure, you have an inner voice that tells you stealing is wrong, but is it wrong just because your inner voice says so?

If wrong is intrinsic/objective, what are some specifics rule that I need, that’s not covered by the general rule ought not do things that are wrong?

Stealing is objectively wrong in your view.

I don’t need to be specific and say you ought not steal, when all I need to say is you ought not do things that are objectively wrong.

Ok, I ought not to. Thanks for setting the ought for me, though really I didn't need it since I'm in agreement that I ought not to.

Did it take your God to set the ought? No, you did it in accordance with your personal attitude and experiences. Stealing causes some form of harm to others. Since it's bad for us to do this, then we ought not to do it. It's that simple.