RE: Deconversion and some doubts
July 31, 2019 at 10:22 pm
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2019 at 10:23 pm by Acrobat.)
(July 31, 2019 at 9:36 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(July 31, 2019 at 9:17 pm)Acrobat Wrote: No, I don’t believe in any type of God that “sets” “makes” or “creates” oughts.
The ought comes from the recognization of what’s objectively wrong. Your the one suggesting that it takes society to set oughts.
I recognize that stealing is wrong, it’s from the recognition that it’s wrong, that I recognize that I ought not to do it, not from society, or some ought setting god.
I don’t believe in a God who “sets” moral rules, so you should perhaps ask that to some theist who does.
I get the bit where you believe the rules aren't literally created. But you believe in some shape or form that the rules are contingent on God or that God and the rules are one or something like that.
No I don’t believed moral rules are contingent on God, I believe their contingent on some some sort of transcendent moral order, some sort of teleological foundation, something like Plato’s conception of the Good, or else nothing is objectively good or bad. Unless you wanted to go down Gae rabbit hole of trying to change the meaning of terms like descriptive and normative, objective and subjective, and call cats dogs.
A platonic conception of reality is theistic, though Vulcan subscribes to such a view of reality but classifies himself as an atheist, it seems because his idea of God is primarily limited to some fundie evangelical view.
