(August 1, 2019 at 8:29 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: now that we’re done untying that knot, lets untie the one that has you tripping all over yourself in the first place.
Boo hoo, atheists don’t get your god (cutting the shit, that’s been the explanation for literally every silly non argument you’ve been making- an excuse to say that).
Lol, I rarely ever use the terms of theism or God in any of the arguments I make, hence why you keep asking what does anything I’m arguing about have to do with God.
The times in which I do, and point out that folks like yourself have a very little understanding of theism and the concept of God, is when you and other atheists try and tell me as a theist, what theism is, or God is.
Quote:First, who cares, we’re allegedly discussing morality. Secondly, you sure it’s atheists that don’t get it? Your description of what you “consider” theism was missing any theism
You care silly, you’re the one that keep complaining about my moral arguments missing theism, complaining about the absence of God in them.
Quote:Do I need to lay out how, in terms you can understand, that has nothing to do with theism? Or are you capable of working that out for yourself, about your own selfs desires?
See there you go again, trying to tell me as a theist, what does and what doesn’t have to do with my theistic beliefs.
Atheists want us to understand atheism, as broad in scope encompassing a wide variety of perspectives and views, but many seem to fail to understand this when it comes to theism, and the concept of God, which encompasses traditions with a wide variety of perspectives over the course of thousands of years. Hence why Grandizer seems confused that many traditional theists, including Catholics and Easter orthodox, that subscribe to impassibility don’t believe god has emotions or feelings, at least not the sort effected by anything we do or say, like worship.
You’re not required to understand all the traditions that go into classical theism, but you should be more mindful when trying to tell a theist what theism contains. It might get you high fives from your fellow unbelievers, like a believer who paints all atheists as nihilist and more subjectivist, but it’s just going to get nothing other cringe for everyone else for the level of ignorance.