Deconversion and some doubts

[GrandizerII]

Hence why Grandizer seems confused that many traditional theists, including Catholics and Easter orthodox, that subscribe to impassibility  don’t believe god has emotions or feelings, at least not the sort effected by anything we do or say, like worship.

Huh? That's not what what I was confused about. I was confused about why you would worship a god that was nothing more than an ideal (an abstract), not that some Christians believe god is impassible. An impassible but personal God would still receive your worship in some way.

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I  gave you examples, which all you did was handwave and insist on your opinion that society has no sway on what people ought to do or not do.

And I pointed that you’re saying here is inaccurate, by indicating that sway you’re referring to is in regards to what people see as good and bad. Society has sway on what people think is true, in believing false things instead of true things, same from sway when it comes to morality.

Society can sway people to think that bad things are good things, and vice versa.

And also that good things are good, bad things are bad. At least it does something that you and I can easily attest to. What does your ideal abstract God do again?

The God that you worship is nothing more than an ideal, a passive impersonal entity that speaks no words and has no say in our affairs.

I find the Good to be intrusive, and personal,  even if seen as  no more than an existing ideal, like moral good, than an entity. As a dad, I find nothing more invasive, confrontational, demanding, of that of being a “good” father, failures produce guilt and tension. Good doesn’t have to change or move, or do anything. The invasive and penetrating effect it has is a result of how acute my recognition of it is.

Nice poetry, but the reason your abstract Good has such an effect is because you willed it to do so, lol. What it does ironically is contingent upon your will.

I’m just acknowledging what it is I see in front of me, not explaining how it is it got there. I don’t need to have an explanation of how the Sun got here in the morning, to recognize it in the morning.

As I thought, you continue to dodge this specific challenge. I know why you would not want to answer this, of course.