(August 8, 2019 at 9:51 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: You aren't obligated to love your daughters, man. You just do. And since you love them, you are bound to do right by them.
I don't always love my daughters, i sometime hate, and resent them as well, that's just the nature of most people's moral life's, as conflicting.
It's very well possible, that I might find a lover, leave my wife and kids, and shack up with her and have no further contact with them at all. But one thing I couldn't deny even in this new found life, is that I was obligated to love my children, that I ought not to have done what I did, at least not without lying to myself.
If you ever had to deal with a failed father, a man who wasn't a very good father, or husband, even they seem aware of this, at some fundamental and deeper level.
In fact such an obligation, seems more real than any other obligation, they even appear more real than you or I.
Perhaps you say it's product of social normativism and conformity. Yet you do make a distinction between a group mentality vs moral mentality.
You also seem to acknowledge, that "leaving my children to starve in the cold is good fathering" isn't right, and that the rules of being a good father aren't arbitrary. This doesn't seem to be in your view to be a product of social normativism and conformity. Perhaps you agree that what's Good, even in fathering, is a product of the Good, and not society?
I see the obligation of being a good father as a product of the Good as well, though you seem to disagree.
I want to know more about The Good, and how it "inwardly works in the soul".
Let's say I'm a bad father, who then comes to recognize "The Good", what effect would it have on me? Would it compel me to be Good? Or just something I acknowledge as casually pretty, that doesn't compel or move me morally one way or the other?
(As far as homosexuality, "Christian love" etc, I have no interest in that discussion, most of it seems to center around white American evangelical Christianity, tied to politics and nationalistic ideals, in which I have no real connection with, to defend. )