RE: How to easily defeat any argument for God
August 12, 2019 at 9:15 am
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2019 at 9:34 am by The Grand Nudger.)
His god must have done at least some of that, or he isn’t a Christian.
Vicarious redemption through Christ is a non negotiable article of the Christian faith.
Anything less is just jesusism, and still won’t rescue his moral stance from its necessarily arbitrary and subjective nature. A god could have nothing -but- good ideas, good acts, and a good nature, and it would still require a standard apart from itself, facts of an act rather than facts of an individual, to be “objectively good”.
His misapplication of moral objectivity is as transparent as his arguments are baseless. He thinks his god is really like that, really good. His objectivity is a statement regarding what he thinks his god really is. A good god, not like that crap holocaust god. Hilarious in that he’s willing to distance himself from anything on his gods acts, commands, character or nature which he deems “not good”. That other god would not be the standard of goodness, whose absence makes bad, in spite of the presence of its god-ness.
As an aside( that might be helpful to the op when dealing with folks like Acro and Bel), the objective immorality of Christ and Christianity is the single best argument against the assumption of the faith. It assumes the existence of the character and the accuracy of the narrative in order to completely shut the door on the religion. There are plenty of horrible things and people and movements which exist. Their mere existence isn’t enough to justify our joining and extolling the virtue of their cause.
Vicarious redemption through Christ is a non negotiable article of the Christian faith.
Anything less is just jesusism, and still won’t rescue his moral stance from its necessarily arbitrary and subjective nature. A god could have nothing -but- good ideas, good acts, and a good nature, and it would still require a standard apart from itself, facts of an act rather than facts of an individual, to be “objectively good”.
His misapplication of moral objectivity is as transparent as his arguments are baseless. He thinks his god is really like that, really good. His objectivity is a statement regarding what he thinks his god really is. A good god, not like that crap holocaust god. Hilarious in that he’s willing to distance himself from anything on his gods acts, commands, character or nature which he deems “not good”. That other god would not be the standard of goodness, whose absence makes bad, in spite of the presence of its god-ness.
As an aside( that might be helpful to the op when dealing with folks like Acro and Bel), the objective immorality of Christ and Christianity is the single best argument against the assumption of the faith. It assumes the existence of the character and the accuracy of the narrative in order to completely shut the door on the religion. There are plenty of horrible things and people and movements which exist. Their mere existence isn’t enough to justify our joining and extolling the virtue of their cause.
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