How to easily defeat any argument for God

[The Grand Nudger]

It's interesting really because what realism means, the way as you and Vulcan have defined clearly over and over again in these forums (and from the videos I have seen on YouTube), many atheists here who would identify as subjectivists when it comes to morality would actually be moral realists but not realize they are.

I would be floored if it took more than one hand to count the number of atheists on this board who weren’t realists....and I’ve been having these discussions here for almost a decade.

Interestingly enough, I used to be on the other side of the line, here, myself.

We’re conditioned to defer to descriptive moral subjectivity and relativism as a function of tolerance and skepticism.

Even more powerfully, atheists commonly reject moral realism ( a position that they actually do hold, overwhelmingly, lol) as it smacks of religion or theism. This is due primarily to nutters like Acro using the term for anything -but- moral realism. Then, when they’re done, some other nut takes up the cause and argues against realism by arguing against things other-than realism. As above.