RE: How to easily defeat any argument for God
August 14, 2019 at 9:25 am
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2019 at 9:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
No, Acro, they don’t. Realists only subscribe to the notion that facts of a matter x are morally relevant.
Goals are a further commitment. They may not be consequentialist (utilitarian) goals, either. They can be, in fact they can be any of the four main ethical motivations.
Utilitarian, deontological, virtue or rights based.
They can be any combination of the above or some combination of all of the above....but a person needn’t have any goals whatsoever to agree that facts of a matter x are morally relevant.
They could easily say, x is bad because of (insert facts), and it may even be bad that I don’t align my goals to (insert the 4)....
.....,,but I don’t care.
Is this your problem with moral realism? That moral facts neither require nor imply goals or normative conclusions? That they can’t make someone care?
Goals are a further commitment. They may not be consequentialist (utilitarian) goals, either. They can be, in fact they can be any of the four main ethical motivations.
Utilitarian, deontological, virtue or rights based.
They can be any combination of the above or some combination of all of the above....but a person needn’t have any goals whatsoever to agree that facts of a matter x are morally relevant.
They could easily say, x is bad because of (insert facts), and it may even be bad that I don’t align my goals to (insert the 4)....
.....,,but I don’t care.
Is this your problem with moral realism? That moral facts neither require nor imply goals or normative conclusions? That they can’t make someone care?
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