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A timeless being cannot create
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RE: A timeless being cannot create
August 20, 2019 at 9:53 pm (This post was last modified: August 20, 2019 at 9:54 pm by mcc1789.)
(August 20, 2019 at 8:16 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(August 20, 2019 at 7:14 pm)mcc1789 Wrote: This post addressed Christians who view God as outside time in the sense that past, present and future are the same for him (C. S. Lewis, Boethius etc.). I don't claim this addresses (or could address) all views on the matter. Since you don't appear to hold their view, it doesn't apply.

That makes sense. Do you by any chance have examples of their arguments? I haven't heard of Boethius, but I do enjoy C.S. Lewis' writings and tend to agree with them; I don't remember what he has said about time.

I found them in the article here: https://www.iep.utm.edu/foreknow/ You might find that interesting regardless. I believe the Lewis quote was from Mere Christianity, but I'm not sure. It was aimed to show how God's foreknowledge is compatible with free will, but this led me to another idea which became the OP.
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A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 12:55 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by vulcanlogician - July 17, 2019 at 3:16 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Aegon - August 20, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - August 20, 2019 at 6:56 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by brewer - August 21, 2019 at 10:17 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 17, 2019 at 4:27 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 4:16 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Grandizer - July 19, 2019 at 12:15 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 20, 2019 at 5:25 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 20, 2019 at 5:32 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 20, 2019 at 7:46 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 20, 2019 at 2:03 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 20, 2019 at 9:15 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 20, 2019 at 5:50 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 20, 2019 at 9:01 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 20, 2019 at 9:28 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by WinterHold - July 17, 2019 at 4:28 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 4:19 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by WinterHold - July 17, 2019 at 9:28 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 9:53 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by WinterHold - July 17, 2019 at 10:53 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 11:10 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by ignoramus - July 17, 2019 at 5:03 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 17, 2019 at 6:48 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 17, 2019 at 7:38 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by LadyForCamus - July 17, 2019 at 4:27 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 17, 2019 at 6:06 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 7:32 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 17, 2019 at 8:22 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 8:33 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 18, 2019 at 1:09 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by LadyForCamus - July 18, 2019 at 10:53 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 4:29 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Chad32 - July 17, 2019 at 6:41 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by brewer - July 17, 2019 at 7:36 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by LastPoet - July 17, 2019 at 8:33 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Anomalocaris - July 17, 2019 at 9:33 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by tackattack - July 17, 2019 at 9:22 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Anomalocaris - July 17, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 9:05 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2019 at 9:46 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 17, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Deesse23 - July 17, 2019 at 11:27 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 17, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by brewer - July 17, 2019 at 12:03 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Brian37 - July 17, 2019 at 10:17 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 10:41 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by tackattack - July 17, 2019 at 10:53 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Anomalocaris - July 17, 2019 at 8:49 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 11:32 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by no one - July 17, 2019 at 11:51 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by comet - July 17, 2019 at 3:57 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Anomalocaris - July 17, 2019 at 4:56 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by LastPoet - July 17, 2019 at 4:13 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Deesse23 - July 18, 2019 at 2:03 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 17, 2019 at 9:57 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by vulcanlogician - July 17, 2019 at 10:03 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by WinterHold - July 17, 2019 at 10:59 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by BryanS - July 17, 2019 at 11:12 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by WinterHold - July 19, 2019 at 12:06 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by BryanS - July 19, 2019 at 11:09 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by WinterHold - July 20, 2019 at 1:27 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by BryanS - July 20, 2019 at 8:47 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 11:15 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by WinterHold - July 19, 2019 at 12:30 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Deesse23 - July 19, 2019 at 2:09 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 10:10 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by vulcanlogician - July 17, 2019 at 10:37 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by BryanS - July 17, 2019 at 10:55 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Mister Agenda - July 18, 2019 at 10:32 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by tackattack - July 18, 2019 at 2:46 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 18, 2019 at 7:29 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 19, 2019 at 1:46 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by tackattack - July 19, 2019 at 3:55 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 19, 2019 at 6:00 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 20, 2019 at 12:54 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by LadyForCamus - July 20, 2019 at 3:50 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 20, 2019 at 8:21 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 21, 2019 at 1:39 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - July 19, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 18, 2019 at 2:55 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Mister Agenda - July 18, 2019 at 4:35 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by LadyForCamus - July 18, 2019 at 4:36 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by BryanS - July 18, 2019 at 11:14 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by ColdComfort - July 18, 2019 at 11:56 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2019 at 12:08 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 19, 2019 at 2:59 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Anomalocaris - July 19, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 20, 2019 at 5:34 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Belacqua - July 20, 2019 at 6:20 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 20, 2019 at 7:05 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Anomalocaris - July 20, 2019 at 4:30 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Bucky Ball - July 23, 2019 at 11:15 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by John 6IX Breezy - August 20, 2019 at 10:43 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Deesse23 - August 20, 2019 at 1:11 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by John 6IX Breezy - August 20, 2019 at 1:36 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Deesse23 - August 20, 2019 at 3:11 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by John 6IX Breezy - August 20, 2019 at 3:17 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Deesse23 - August 21, 2019 at 12:40 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by John 6IX Breezy - August 21, 2019 at 12:51 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by downbeatplumb - August 20, 2019 at 1:38 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Grandizer - August 20, 2019 at 1:59 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by John 6IX Breezy - August 20, 2019 at 3:03 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - August 20, 2019 at 7:14 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by John 6IX Breezy - August 20, 2019 at 8:16 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - August 20, 2019 at 9:53 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Grandizer - August 20, 2019 at 11:15 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by mcc1789 - August 20, 2019 at 11:41 pm
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Grandizer - August 21, 2019 at 3:51 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Grandizer - August 21, 2019 at 10:32 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by Grandizer - August 29, 2019 at 1:01 am
RE: A timeless being cannot create - by John 6IX Breezy - August 21, 2019 at 10:15 am

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