(October 14, 2011 at 8:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: If all species of deer descend from a single species, then why does that species then not descend from yet another?
Simple, natural selection is a downhill mechanism, in nearly all observed cases (there is possibly one disputable exception) it reduces genetic information in the genome or at the best keeps it neutral. So you would expect there to be limitations within the animal kinds. This single cell to multi-cell organism fairy tale goes against the empirical evidence.
Quote: If you admit the mechanism but deny the timeline, or apply arbitrary limits on the mechanism itself, I'm going to ask you for evidence. You have none,
Why would you assume I have no evidence before you have asked me to present it? Since you like dogs as an example we will use that. Dogs were bred through a process of artificial selection, which really was just a souped up form of natural selection. From the original ancestors of dogs we were able to get some fabulous breeds of dogs, everything from the little Pomeranian to the Irish wolfhound. However, the more and more people bred these dogs the unhealthier they got. Why? It’s because the artificial selection (just like natural selection) was an information reducing mechanism. The dogs lost genetic information and became more susceptible to illness and defects. Could we reverse the process and breed a Pomeranian back into something resembling its common wolf-like ancestor? Nope, because all the information was lost. The common ancestor had more genetic information than present day dogs do. So there is some of your evidence.
Quote: so our conversation, as far as it can go, is over. Whats left is just me mocking you for your idiotic beliefs. You could put an end to the whole thing at any point by actually providing evidence. Which you wont, because it doesn't exist, because you're a complete nut. The creation model does not rely on anything even approximating any sort of science whatsoever. It is magic, start to finish. You're a believer of spells and fairies and Djinn, and if that's uncomfortable for you, it's not my problem.
Why do you rely so heavily on appeal to ridicule, straw man arguments, and ad Hominem? Is it really all you have got or are you just too lazy to avoid fallacious argumentation?
