(September 9, 2019 at 6:39 pm)Belaqua Wrote:(September 9, 2019 at 6:07 pm)Grandizer Wrote: They always seem to assume on the fly there is a God that isn't anything like that,
Given the thousands of pages they wrote to figure out what God is, and why it's necessary, I don't think "on the fly" is a fair characterization.
Quote:yet even the philosophical God originates in human thinking rather than demonstrating itself to us.
This is our modern feeling.
The arguments of the people you dismiss are based on obvious facts about the universe which, they feel very sincerely, point to a God when properly analyzed. God, in their view, "demonstrate[s] itself to us" by being the logical conclusion of questions we ask about existence.
I know you don't think their conclusions are correct, so you don't have to remind me of that.
Fair enough, putting aside the strictly philosophical God ...
You have the theologian God that is nevertheless linked to the God of the Bible/Christian Tradition. Do you think it's over the top to say that it's a little sketchy when theists try to argue for a very intellectual type of god that possesses characteristics that are exclusively based on Christian scripture/tradition?