RE: An Essay about Atheism in Latin
September 12, 2019 at 12:19 am
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2019 at 12:22 am by Belacqua.)
(September 11, 2019 at 7:43 pm)Succubus Wrote:(September 11, 2019 at 5:31 pm)Belaqua Wrote: One of the most anti-intellectual trends I've seen recently is the assumption that only science can tell us anything about the human condition. More intellectual pursuits like history, literature, and other subjects which require various intellectual skills, are sometimes devalued on this forum in favor of a faith and devotion to science.
You are of course referring to scientism. One of the greatest strawman arguments ever devised.
As for the bolded; who states this? Names please.
Yes, scientism is real, and it's bad. I'm glad we agree on that.
As for who states that "only science can tell us anything about the human condition," you are right to call me out on that. It's not something that people are usually willing to say straight out, and I can't provide any links to people who say it.
Still, I think many things that people are willing to assert aim at that conclusion, and it's one we should avoid. For example, if you keep your eyes open on this forum you'll see people asserting that only that which science demonstrates can be considered true. Sorry, I haven't kept the links. I've been told that questions not answerable by science are not even "legitimate" questions, as if it is somehow illegal to ponder them.
If we add together the ideological position that only science deals with the truth, and that religion is only about obfuscation, I think we get pretty close to the sentence in blue. If we're paying attention, I suspect that one of the more intemperate posters on this forum will provide us with another example soon.
It was our stem arthropod friend Anomalocaris who confidently told me the other day that life is all about survival, and any pleasure or wisdom gained for its own sake is a waste of time.
Anyway, as I said, I'm glad we agree that things other than science can tell us important things about life.
(September 11, 2019 at 8:33 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Instead they say, 'No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way.'
This is the opposite of what Christians say.
If we want our criticisms of Christianity to stick, I think we should make sure they are accurate.
The sense of awe that one feels in looking at the universe is not quantifiable or testable in repeated empirical experiments. Therefore, it is not science. I'm glad that scientists feel it, but that's because they are human, not because they are scientists.