RE: God, Energy and Matter
September 13, 2019 at 5:50 pm
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2019 at 6:15 pm by Simon Moon.)
(September 13, 2019 at 5:20 pm)Lek Wrote:(September 13, 2019 at 9:10 am)polymath257 Wrote: Hmmm...even if you think there is only one *real* god, you have to admit there are many *fictitious* gods. And that many people believe those fictitious gods actually exist and that they talk to such.
So, why should I believe you are talking to the real god and not one of the many fictitious ones? In fact, why should I believe that *any* gods are real? Maybe they are *all* fictitious?
The only way you'll know is if God reveals it to you. Otherwise you won't know.
How does one go about telling the difference between god revealing his existence to them, and a sincerely held delusion that god has revealed himself to them?
Has everyone that has ever claimed that a god has revealed his existence to them, actually had a god reveal his presence to them?
Has everyone that has the same theistic beliefs as you, that claims 'God' has revealed his existence to them, actually had 'God' reveal his existence to them?
I'm not saying they were lying, just mistaking or delusional.
If you were talking to 2 people, one who actually had 'God' reveal his existence to them, and one who had a sincerely held delusion that 'God' revealed himself to them, how would YOU go about telling the difference between the 2?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
