(September 16, 2019 at 11:13 am)Drich Wrote:(September 15, 2019 at 6:24 am)Grandizer Wrote: I think the belief in a risen Jesus is better explained by potential naturalistic explanations than by a potential supernatural one, and you don't even need to argue the Gospels are complete myths to come up with a naturalistic explanation that's more compelling than a miracle case. One example: Joseph of Arimathea ended up moving Jesus' body to a private place during the night, in the hope that it would make things easier for the Messiah to come back to life and fulfill the expectations that he was supposed to meet. When that didn't happen, Jesus' body nevertheless stayed there and was never moved back to the original tomb. Joseph also decided not to let anyone know about this, so when rumors spread that Jesus had risen, he chose not to say anything about it.what book chapter and verse is any of this in?
Are you guys seriously adding straw men material to the story of christ just to have more to say when you try and knock it down? Seriouly look at what you are doing you are literally creating a straw man by telling us what you think was going on in the minds of people you have no way of knowing. THEN you have the juevos to tell me how this is all wrong... what you created is wrong...
Mark 15 provides the background to these two possible scenarios. Of course I added to the story but so did the early Christians (see the later copies of Mark 16, Matthew, Luke, John, and other sources).
Also, the phrase "straw men" ... not what you think it means.
