(September 16, 2019 at 2:07 pm)Acrobat Wrote:(September 16, 2019 at 1:24 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Where? Reread verse 8. It says the women didn't tell anyone about what the man in the tomb told them …
The writer of Mark indicated that the resurrected Christ was going before Peter and the Disciples, in verse 8. Indicating that writer acknowledged the disciples encounter with the resurrected Christ. He chose not to narrate this event, and closes with the Man telling the women this, and the women being terrified of reporting this encounter.
No, Acrobat, the text doesn't really say that at all. You could argue, I guess, that the disciples did end up seeing Jesus, but this isn't acknowledged in the text. In fact, verse 8 says that the women witnesses didn't mention what they saw to anyone.
Quote:Quote:That's what you passionately believe, fine. But it still doesn't make for a strong case for the Resurrection.
A strong enough case for who? It’s a strong enough case for me to believe it, but the fact it’s not a strong enough case for you to believe is not really my problem is it? You probably don’t believe a variety of things I strongly do believe, but that doesn’t change anything for me.
I can only say why I strongly believe something. And unless you have some strong enough basis for me to consider other ways, than I’ll continue to believe what I do.
Your insistence, however, on your belief being true has no bearing on whether it is true or not.
Quote:Quote:Um, Ellen G. White followed on from Miller by spiritualizing what he said, exactly how Jesus' second coming ended up being spiritualized by the early church ...
There’s no spiritualized version of the Miller’s failed end time predication date, that’s a part of the SDA churches beliefs. The SDA church has no official position on anything concerning that failed prophecy date. You won’t find any mention of Miller on their official site either. The may have kept some parts of Miller’s views, via Ellen G White, but the spiritualized version of Oct 22, 1844 isn’t one of them.
You must not have looked hard enough.
https://www.ellengwhitetruth.com/life-ti...ppointment
Quote:Obviously Jesus did not return in 1844. But the error was not in the Millerite message — that is, not an error in computation or the date, but an error in the nature of the event. For several years, the intensity had been building but without great emotional expressions. For most Millerites, it was a time of searching the heart and confession of sin.