(September 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm)Lek Wrote: I list supporting factors as the witness of other believers, evidence of ghosts and other supernatural phenomena, etc.
And also horoscopes, palm reading, tarot cards, big-foots... why seclude yourself on superstitions that you believe in? Billions of people believe in horoscopes, even educated people and yet it's all worthless.
(September 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm)Lek Wrote: A very conservative estimate of the number of people in the world today who believe in God, in this scientific age, is five billion.
Nones are on the rise.
(September 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm)Lek Wrote: I'm not talking about just Jesus, Allah, Brahman, etc. I'm talking about God.
Oh, are we lumping all religions together? If they're so similar then why did theists spent all this time killing each-other for whose god is the right one?
(September 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm)Lek Wrote: So you think billions of educated, non-delusional people are stupid, mistaken or delusional.
The thing is it's extremely easy to be delusional. That's why people get scared at horror movies - imagine, people are afraid of something that they know doesn't exist because when they start watching some horror movie and their brain is fooling them to feel that the monster is around them.
That's why movie horror business flourishes along with horoscope, palm reading, tarot and also religions.
You have been on this forum for few years now and yet you fail to notice that we discuss when some educated person believes in some nonsense. Like recently there was that computer scientist who started believing in creationism and yet what is his evidence? There is none.
So to me, and I think that I say in the name of the other atheists, it doesn't matter who specifically believes in what, but what evidence they have for believing in it.
I really do wish you read "Flim Flam" by James Randi where he gives numerous examples of how easy it is to fool people(he doesn't mention horror movies). Like when he went on a radio and said that he saw a UFO and then immediately people started calling in saying they saw the same thing and then he revealed that he didn't see anything.
But if you really want to believe there is something supernatural behind horoscopes, demons, faeries, etc. there is a thing called Interdimensional hypothesis which is some sort of pseudoscience that claims how some shit (I really don't know how else to call it) manifests itself through the history as demons, aliens, horoscope, Marian apparitions... - I mean is that something you see yourself believing in?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
