Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?

[mastertrell]

Here is another explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-GmZaJxLY

its from a bbc programme 'what happened before the big bang' which had a lot of potential explanations for the big bang. God was not one of the options.

I mentioned M-brane in my argument, and I watched this episode of through the wormhole, great series, but nothing in this clip counters my rational I laid forth. You have dimensional branes which by definition are boundaries and occupy and define spatial dimensions, since this is an effect where is the cause. If you read M-brane the math fits completely when given the known variables but the theory does not account for the creation of the branes, you see they have to always have been there for the theory to work out. He even said in the clip that the big bang people pigeon holed themselves in, because they can’t explain what happened before inflation, where the mass energy came from. He suffers from the same problem, he needs gravity to pull the branes and the branes themselves before he can spark the creation.

Also I never said god in the traditional sense of the bible, Koran, what ever old dusty text you want to mention. My whole argument is that there would need to be something operating above the limitations of logic to create the universe we are in. That’s it, you can’t extrapolate what the process is, whether entity or supernatural event, the logical framework just sets up and shows something outside of logic started the universe process.

Now I do find it funny, especially by posting videos which support my hypothesis and the lack of understanding that people have of the known laws of physics. It’s ironic that when religious people post their beliefs you rip them a new hole for reason such as blindly following a book without critical thinking. Yet have you ever challenged your own beliefs with critical thinking or do you just accept what scientists tell you, even when they themselves can’t agree on theory(an example is time, in relativity it is generated internally within the relationship of 2 constructs, in quantum theory you have to have an outside time dimension in order for waves to collapse evenly, there are many areas scientists disagree on). If you pride yourself on being atheist and believe in inductive reasoning and observation, acquaint yourselves better with math, physics, and logic flow otherwise you won’t really know how the universe works. I am an atheists worst nightmare, someone who has studied physics and came to the conclusion that an intelligent design is the only logical conclusion for the nature of the universe.