(October 16, 2011 at 8:05 pm)mastertrell Wrote: Since we do not fully know the universe and it is always changing, how can one simply say intelligent design is not one of the possibilities since we don’t have a definitive understanding yet. I have presented a solid enough situation that shows an illogical process at work, can you show me proof that a logically unbound power does not exist. In my model, the ball is in my court, please present me with a situation where one, just one model is presented that lies purely on logic (theoretical, with mathematical, and deduction) that can exist on it’s own without the help of a higher power needing it to come into being. I don’t think anyone can and that’s my point
So far I count argument from incredulity and shifting the burden of proof. What else ya got?