(October 21, 2019 at 8:59 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: If you shoved shit for 3 million years, it is arguable the world overall would still be less enriched than if you set up amazon and ran it for 20 years.
Yeah, like I said no leftie is going to change that. You will always have loser jobs like shoveling shit, teacher, homeless veteran, non expensive restaurant workers... who need more than one job to survive. I mean this is the message of the current society to a homeless veteran: "Hey man, it's your loss that you were fighting for the country when you could have been making billions Bezos or president of Exxon. It's your choice."
(October 24, 2019 at 1:37 am)EgoDeath Wrote: In a perfect world, we would live in a sort of Libertarian Socialist (often equated with Anarchist) society, or rather set of societies, that were self-sufficient, small and lacking many of the technologies that we love so dearly today. But, that world will likely never exist,
Well, maybe it will exist. I mean let's say that humans survive the pollution crisis, in the not so distant future it's likely that farming will become robotized. All land will be worked on by robots. So does that kind of society let one or two individuals be the owners of all the farming land and equipment and then sell that food to people in stores also run by robots and not pay any taxes? Why should they? Are they creating jobs or something? (I mean situation is now similar with oil and gas.) Or should the government own the food and give it to people for free?
Similar with cars. If all cars become automated taxis that most of the people don't even need to own the car, should one guy own all the taxis and collect all the money and pay no taxes?
So maybe "revolution" will come like most revolutions - through technology. I mean technology is the reason why kids don't need to work anymore and go to school and most of the reason why slavery fell apart in US.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"