(October 27, 2019 at 8:03 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:(October 24, 2019 at 4:56 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Once again you've changed the subject rather than follow through on what was said before.
I pointed out that there are arguments -- philosophical, metaphysical -- which don't operate in the way science operates. And that you were misapplying standards.
Rather than acknowledge that, you've now made a number of different claims. As it happens, I disagree with your conclusion here, too, but from experience I know that if I take the time to type out an argument, you will respond with yet another subject.
I think you aren't interested enough to focus on the conversation, so I'll stop here.
I don't think I changed the subject. You said that what Spinoza was talking about belongs to metaphysics, and not to physics. I said that, although it did belong to metaphysics back then, it probably belongs to physics today.
Why not both? In metaphysics, you can intelligently speculate about potential explanations/accounts of such things as how this universe came to be based on the discoveries of physics, and some well-thought out metaphysical views might even help in guiding scientists to do the right research to answer certain questions about the way the world works.