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Where do you draw the line between legitimate fat acceptance and science denialism?
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RE: Where do you draw the line between legitimate fat acceptance and science denialism?
(October 28, 2019 at 9:39 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(October 28, 2019 at 7:45 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Here's a few of their gems: 

1)  Desire to lose weight is inherently fat-phobic and it means you hate fat people
2)  There are no health risks to obesity
3)  There is extreme health risks to losing weight because you're giving yourself an eating disorder
4)  Losing weight is nearly impossible and long term weight loss IS impossible.  If you're lucky enough to lose weight, you'll just gain it right back
5)  Fat people can be just as physically active as non-fat people
6)  BMI is garbage since professional athletes will have a high BMI despite being in great health
7)  Since thin people can have these health issues (like heart disease, sleep apnea, diabetes, ect), then that means being fat doesn't cause them

Am I alone in thinking that this has a nasty habit of going into junk science?  Or science denialism?  Is it wrong for me to want to keep this weight off or to work hard to stay strong and healthy and, yes, thin?

Only 2 and 7 seem like current science denialism to me. 1 and 3 are debatable. The rest I don't see too much wrong with.

Ok, maybe calling BMI "garbage" is over the top, but 6 is still overall agreeable.

My feelings on these:

1)  Ok, I'm trans, I have the opportunity for surgery and surgeons won't touch me if I weigh over 220.  So, yeah, I have a legit, non-fat phobic reason to lose weight.  But besides that, the more weight I lose, the better shape I get into, the better I feel, inside and out.  Feeling good isn't fat phobia.

2)  Biology major.  There are a whole host of health risks associated with obesity.  I have known people who died much younger than they should have and they were morbidly obese.

3)  I think over eating is a worse disorder than temporarily eating less.  It certainly seems to hurt more people, at least in America.  

4)  Losing weight is hard work.  It hasn't been easy.  But it's possible and for some people, if they don't lose that weight, they will die.  Keeping the weight off is possible, but that's where psychology comes into play.  Don't let yourself get depressed, don't eat your way out of depression and when you get to your target weight, don't fall back into the same bad habits that made you fat in the first place.  Staying on a healthy weight loss plan can be challenging, but if you want to make permanent changes to your body, you need to make permanent changes to your lifestyle (especially as you get older).

5)  I just don't see that level of activity from fat people.  Since I've been getting into shape, I've been going to the gym, I've been hiking, I've been swimming in my apartments pool (thank god for indoor pools).  You don't see fat people at the gym very often and those who do show up don't go very often.  The people who are regularly going, they're the fit ones.  When you go hiking, when you people watch the people jogging around LaFortune Park or down on Riverside, it's not the fat people jogging.  I guess it can happen, but it seems to be a lot less common than fat activists would lead people to believe.

6)  BMI has issues, but it's not complete garbage.  Using it as the be-all end-all of your overall fitness isn't going to be accurate, especially if you have a wide skeletal build or if you are especially muscular, but it can also be a decent indication that people could stand to lose a few pounds.  Truth is, if someone is 350 lbs, I don't care how wide your skeleton is, you're not a healthy weight.

7)  Yes, thin people can also have heart disease.  That's kinda along the lines of non-smokers getting lung cancer or emphysema or non drinkers getting liver disease.  Yes, they can get it, but your odds go way up because of poor lifestyle choices.
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RE: Where do you draw the line between legitimate fat acceptance and science denialism? - by TaraJo - October 28, 2019 at 10:06 pm

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