(November 22, 2019 at 10:38 pm)Fireball Wrote:(November 22, 2019 at 9:45 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Sure, the universe could be more of a mindfuck than it already is. But are we epistemologically justified, as far as we know, to accept the idea that being can come from absolute no-being given how counter intuitive it is and seemingly illogical and given we haven't observed such a thing?
What do we even mean by "non-being"? And "coming from" ... it?
I will say that if science was completely intuitive, it would be cubic shit tons easier, and everybody would be doing it.
No, I'm fine with the results of scientific studies yielding counterintuitive results, but I wonder if we're jumping the gun here without any science showing us this is possible and given it seems to defy logic. You have Krauss who wrote a book about the universe coming out of "nothing" but even he concedes it didn't really pop out of literal absolute nothing.
