RE: My argument for atheism +
November 23, 2019 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2019 at 4:15 pm by Tom Fearnley.)
(November 23, 2019 at 4:00 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(November 22, 2019 at 10:22 pm)Tom Fearnley Wrote: Atheism: The belief that God almost certainly doesn't exist.
Reason for this: There is no evidence for god where there should be (not just that "there is no evidence..." that's agnosticism.)
Counter from theists: God created the universe/did the fine tuning/created humans/the Kalam/The argument from contingency/the Fine Tuning argument etc etc.
My counter for atheism that beats all arguments for God: God doesn't have a brain or neurons - he's immaterial not made of matter or energy - so how can he think thoughts or have knowledge? Without a brain or neurons he couldn't create a universe or create anything else.
I've never got any evidence that God can think without a brain or neurons.
By 'atheism +' do you mean strong or 'positive' atheism? Or are you referring to atheism plus something in addition?
Atheism plus something in addition being the counter to any argument. Some of the responses I've gotten from a theist are terrible: "W|hy does God require a brain, prove it" < Because thoughts come from the brain.
(November 23, 2019 at 9:21 am)Alex K Wrote:There is no evidence for Aliens: I assume you're agnostic about aliens however?(November 22, 2019 at 10:22 pm)Tom Fearnley Wrote: Atheism: The belief that God almost certainly doesn't exist.
Reason for this: There is no evidence for god where there should be (not just that "there is no evidence..." that's agnosticism.)
Counter from theists: God created the universe/did the fine tuning/created humans/the Kalam/The argument from contingency/the Fine Tuning argument etc etc.
My counter for atheism that beats all arguments for God: God doesn't have a brain or neurons - he's immaterial not made of matter or energy - so how can he think thoughts or have knowledge? Without a brain or neurons he couldn't create a universe or create anything else.
I've never got any evidence that God can think without a brain or neurons.
Once you allow magic, anything goes, even thinking without neurons. The crucial point is really that there is no good reason to think that any of that is real.
I disagree with the "no evidence -> agnosticism, no evidence where there should be -> atheism" definition. That sets the bar way to high and would imply that I can only be atheistic wrt falsifiable God hypetheses, and only agnostic towards any nonfalsifiable God hypothesis, and that makes it way too easy on the believers.