Me: What do you mean by "God"
Them: The supernatural being that created the universe.
Me: WHAT supernatural being that created the universe?
Them: The one that exists.
Me: I've never experienced such a being so I'll suspend belief.
Them: Have you ever been to China?
Me: No.
Them: Then how do you know it exists?
Me: The likelihood that all the photographs and history and people from China is just some massive conspiracy is very small.
Them: The likelihood that all the people who believe in God are lying about it is very small too. And there are more believers in God than disbelievers.
Me: Lying has got nothing to do with it. Such people can genuinely believe that such a God exists ... but at least with China I can go and visit it and see for myself if it's real or not ... not so with God.
Them: You can do the same thing with God. Just open your heart to him and you will know he's real.
Me: No, if I did that, there's no way I could know he was real.
Them: What if he spoke to your heart?
Me: What does it even mean to speak to my "heart"?
Them: You'd get a deep feeling in your heart that he was real.
Me: Feelings are not evidence.
Them: Well, what if he spoke to you directly?
Me: It would be more likely that I was hallucinating than that he actually existed.
Them: What if he came down from the sky and others saw him too?
Me: It would be more likely that I was hallucinating than that he actually existed.
Them: No, no, you misunderstand. I'm not saying that it LOOKS to you like others are seeing him too ... I'm saying they actually are.
Me: So you're saying that if I, and others, actually saw him ... then I, and others, would actually see him?
Them: Yes, how can you refute that?
Me: Well, if a winged pig flew over your head then a winged pig would fly over your head .... how can you refute that?
Them: There's no such thing as winged pigs ... how is that even relevant?
Me: You don't understand the analogy, then?
Them: Don't condescent me! Of course I understand it.
Me: Okay, explain it then.
Them: See, you're still condescending me! It's got nothing to do with winged pigs. The point is that God must exist because how else could the universe exist.
Me: Maybe the universe just existed from the beginning?
Them: Don't be silly ... nothing just exists without any explanation!
Me: Except, God of course!
Them: Now you're getting it!
Me: I was being sarcastic and making a point.
Them: Well, you just admitted that God exists so I'm gonna go and convert somebody else now.
Me: Um, okay, have a nice day. But, to be clear, I don't believe in God and you didn't convince me of anything.
Them: Sure, sure, I get it. You don't want to admit that you lost a debate ... but God knows that you know he exists and you're just denying it.
Me: God would know if he existed.
Them: You already admitted he exists!
Me: Sigh ... bye!
Them: The supernatural being that created the universe.
Me: WHAT supernatural being that created the universe?
Them: The one that exists.
Me: I've never experienced such a being so I'll suspend belief.
Them: Have you ever been to China?
Me: No.
Them: Then how do you know it exists?
Me: The likelihood that all the photographs and history and people from China is just some massive conspiracy is very small.
Them: The likelihood that all the people who believe in God are lying about it is very small too. And there are more believers in God than disbelievers.
Me: Lying has got nothing to do with it. Such people can genuinely believe that such a God exists ... but at least with China I can go and visit it and see for myself if it's real or not ... not so with God.
Them: You can do the same thing with God. Just open your heart to him and you will know he's real.
Me: No, if I did that, there's no way I could know he was real.
Them: What if he spoke to your heart?
Me: What does it even mean to speak to my "heart"?
Them: You'd get a deep feeling in your heart that he was real.
Me: Feelings are not evidence.
Them: Well, what if he spoke to you directly?
Me: It would be more likely that I was hallucinating than that he actually existed.
Them: What if he came down from the sky and others saw him too?
Me: It would be more likely that I was hallucinating than that he actually existed.
Them: No, no, you misunderstand. I'm not saying that it LOOKS to you like others are seeing him too ... I'm saying they actually are.
Me: So you're saying that if I, and others, actually saw him ... then I, and others, would actually see him?
Them: Yes, how can you refute that?
Me: Well, if a winged pig flew over your head then a winged pig would fly over your head .... how can you refute that?
Them: There's no such thing as winged pigs ... how is that even relevant?
Me: You don't understand the analogy, then?
Them: Don't condescent me! Of course I understand it.
Me: Okay, explain it then.
Them: See, you're still condescending me! It's got nothing to do with winged pigs. The point is that God must exist because how else could the universe exist.
Me: Maybe the universe just existed from the beginning?
Them: Don't be silly ... nothing just exists without any explanation!
Me: Except, God of course!
Them: Now you're getting it!
Me: I was being sarcastic and making a point.
Them: Well, you just admitted that God exists so I'm gonna go and convert somebody else now.
Me: Um, okay, have a nice day. But, to be clear, I don't believe in God and you didn't convince me of anything.
Them: Sure, sure, I get it. You don't want to admit that you lost a debate ... but God knows that you know he exists and you're just denying it.
Me: God would know if he existed.
Them: You already admitted he exists!
Me: Sigh ... bye!