RE: Time to embrace Islam!
December 10, 2019 at 12:09 pm
(This post was last modified: December 10, 2019 at 12:17 pm by R00tKiT.)
(December 10, 2019 at 11:48 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:(December 10, 2019 at 11:30 am)Klorophyll Wrote: The real challenge is to reconcile our beliefs with reality, not to give up on them
Make sure to let us know the moment you start doing that.
RAmen
(December 10, 2019 at 11:57 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: I prefer embracing reality.
Fantasy can be fun but the secret of enjoyment is to realise it’s not real.
Funny how you two disregarded everything I said just to get to the endiing sentence, this only proves what I said in the original post : most atheists are too lazy to look for the truth, or simply don't care about it, or are arrogant enough to think their brilliant mind will surpass even the holy books they didn't read.
Speaking of reality, when I look around I can see that things are quite orderly. My computer didn't jump and crash against the roof for no reason, when I reach out for my phone I on average reach out to it without some random alien lightening coming down my finger.
Enjoy your quest to reconcile orderly with no god.
(December 10, 2019 at 10:51 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: A being who is truly omniscient can't even have free will itself, it can only do what it already knows it will do; if it does otherwise, it was not truly omniscient, and if it can't do otherwise, it does not truly have free will.
It's just the way you put the words that makes you think there is a contradiction. An omniscient being simultaneously wants and knows what he will do and he will do it. When you say "he can't do something different than what he knows he will do "[sic.] you are already assuming he changed his mind and the future he projected didn't please him enough, you are accusing the deity of mood swings.